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To: FatherofFive

“Do you have to believe in Christ to be saved? By your crazy logic, believing in Christ is also a work.”

No, that is not “my logic”, do not put words in my mouth. Belief is the work of the father:

“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.” John 6:44

“Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.” James 1:18

“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,” 1 Peter 1:3


“You may be confusing what the Church teaches with what the Bible teaches:”

If your church is the true representative of Christ on earth, there really shouldn’t be any conflict in the teachings, should there?

“But you probably don’t trust the Bible, because the Church gave us the Bible.”

God gave us the Bible, which is why we call it the Word of God, so noone may boast that it is their own work.


123 posted on 09/02/2016 12:14:05 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
If your church is the true representative of Christ on earth, there really shouldn’t be any conflict in the teachings, should there?

There are no conflicts with the Church and Scripture.

But prayfully consider these questions, and give specific answers:

Where did the table of contents of the Bible come from?

Where did God say "This is the Bible" ?

Where did God tell Martin Luther to remove certain books from the Bible?

These are serious questions. Please give specific answers.

124 posted on 09/02/2016 12:25:17 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Boogieman
Belief is the work of the father

So you need do nothing to be saved? Everything is the work of the Father? The Father planted belief in your brain, but not others?

You make no sense whatsoever.

125 posted on 09/02/2016 12:33:09 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Boogieman
God gave us the Bible

And where did God give us the table of contents of the Bible? How was it that Martin Luther could change the Table of Contents of the Bible after 1,500 years? Where did God tell Martin Luther to change the Bible?

130 posted on 09/02/2016 1:09:44 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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