[Little Pig]

So here’s the downside of that:

The US is currently one of the permanent members of the Security Council, with veto power. If we exit the UN, we lose that element of control, which means a couple of things:

First, we hang Israel out to dry. The US is generally the only voice in the UN supporting them, and frequently has to exercise its veto to override UN resolutions condemning or otherwise attacking Israel.

Second, we open ourselves up to all kinds of hassle. If we’re not participating, and not able to block other nations from imposing their petty vendettas against us, any two-bit tinhorn dictatorship can impose UN sanctions on the US. It’s easy to dismiss such concern, given the general ineffectiveness of the UN, but the US depends on a lot of the world to handle the production and service of its economy, and buy its debt. It would be very easy for our “partners” to use UN influence to restructure their relationships with us to be more favorable to their side, and we’d have little to no recourse.

I’m all for pushing the UN offshore, and for scaling back our financial support of an organization that has little interest in favoring our interests, but we should not relinquish our own influence.

[Thank You Rush]

They’d be pretty powerless with a much reduced contribution from the US to the kitty each year...It’s a useless organization that needs to disband PERIOD. The countries left to do their mischief would still find a way to do it without the UN..then countries would have a decision to make, wouldn’t they? Nothing says individual countries can’t go after the ones causing trouble WITHOUT the added complication of UN policy!

[VRWCmember]

Be careful LP. You are making rational statements that are likely to get you tarred as a “globalist” around here.

[onedoug]

Without US money the UN would quickly devolve to the condition of the EU.

Real power brokers, what?

[Bigg Red]

You make valid points, but I suspect that the UN would just collapse if the US left it. US money props it up, and if we shuttered the place all of these freeloaders would need to relocate from their plush offices in NYC to some other country.

They should go where they are needed. Syria sounds like a good fit.

[i_robot73]

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...but the US depends on a lot of the world to handle the production and service of its economy, and buy its debt. It would be very easy for our “partners” to use UN influence to restructure their relationships with us to be more favorable to their side, and we’d have little to no recourse...
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Well, SH!T, sign me up, FRiend. One more nail in the fiat Federal Reserve? America having to, again, make it ‘Made in the USA’?

Exactly what were the downsides again?

[VitacoreVision]

Leaving the United Nations and the Impact on Israel.

The UN would become largely powerless if the U.S. left the United Nations. The U.S. has the most powerful army in the world and the largest economy. Without the U.S. the UN become a big joke.

Israel might well leave the UN too. There's a strong faction in Israel that loathes the UN and would happily leave if the U.S. left too.