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To: monkeywrench

“... the corrupt officials were the biggest problem...”

I watched a documentary a few nights ago simply because I remembered this case (and how horrific it was). There was an investigator pulled out of retirement that proved several things I never knew about.. a man could get easily into the basement, a paint brush set that was used in the murder, boot tracks, and that the child had been injured with a stun gun. Most shocking to me was the fact the Boulder PD “fed” false info to the media with the hopes someone in the family would admit it. By the end of the documentary, I personally believe the PD ruined the remaining family and allowed a killer to go loose.


26 posted on 09/15/2016 4:08:56 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: momtothree

I saw that retired investigator climbing through window. But they were saying, if intruder, they would carry her downstairs and out the back door vs. winding through the house, down a hallway, to a door that opened weird, to the basement to take her out a small window that he would have to shove her body, dead weight up and through

Just doesn’t make sense an intruder would spend so much time in the house and go through all of that. You kidnap someone in a house, you get out fast, you have a note, already written and not a three page note.

It was a coverup in the family.


27 posted on 09/15/2016 4:12:44 PM PDT by Engedi
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To: momtothree

Know it all Smit messed it up worse than the BPD. Remember, he didn’t arrive on the scene until March.

Smit is full of bs. It was already known that someone could get into the window. John had broken the window some months before coming in that way when he’d been locked out.

More Smit hooey. It was long known the paint brush came from Pasty’s paint kit in the basement. A sliver of wood from the brush had also been found near the kit and was in evidence. Smit did most of his work off of BPD evidence.

On Dr. Phil’s 3rd installment (to be aired next Monday), the boot print is supposed to be discussed with Burke.

http://www.acandyrose.com/s-evidence-prints-hand-foot.htm To summarize, the Hi-Tech print could have been left by anyone at any time prior to or after the murder. Burke and his friend, Fleet Jr., both had Hi-Techs. The cops wore them. The total stranger (one of this week’s shows discussed him) who died of a bullet to the head had a pair. Who knows how many of the other men who had been in the basement wore them. Did they ask the housekeeper’s husband/son? He’d been asked by Patsy to see about the broken window and he helped haul out the Christmas decorations. A repairman had been in there earlier. The Ramseys had workmen and decorators in and out all the time. We’ve never been told if it’s size would fit a man or child. The BPD would know but that’s something they’re keeping under wraps.

Something else Smit ran with is in a picture of the grate to the window, there are weeds under it. A policeman who first looked around the outside of the house said he’d lifted the grate and that’s how the weeds could have been caught in it. However, there’s undisturbed cobwebs in the picture so who knows. Smit also said a mark on the wall under the window could be from the intruder but he neglects to say it could be from John coming in the window or that it may be nothing at all. The wine cellar wasn’t used for wine, it was a storeroom. Stuff was scattered everywhere so anything could have made the mark. The housekeeper said she swept the glass up from when John broke the window but I haven’t read if it had been swept since. The print was found in mold so don’t know that sweeping would disturb it or not. Either way, Smit shouldn’t have hung his intruder case on it.

The BPD tried several stun guns and couldn’t determine a match. But the two dots do match the width between model train tracks. Strange that Smit didn’t say anything about train tracks, huh. I wouldn’t trust Smit to prove a jay walking investigation.

Feeding or leaving out important points to the public is par for any investigation.


30 posted on 09/15/2016 5:18:06 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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