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Apology Issued After Officers Raid Wrong Home (SWAT in Clifton, Colorado)
Denver CBS Local Channel 4 ^ | September 15, 2016 6:09 PM | CLIFTON, Colo. (CBS4)

Posted on 09/16/2016 11:31:43 AM PDT by Texas Fossil

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To: faithhopecharity

The only time I think this SWAT action is necessary is if someone’s life is in immediate danger.


21 posted on 09/16/2016 12:13:27 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

agreed!


22 posted on 09/16/2016 12:14:55 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: sparklite2

That is not justice.


23 posted on 09/16/2016 12:15:47 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: drop 50 and fire for effect

That’s even better.


24 posted on 09/16/2016 12:16:07 PM PDT by Flick Lives (TRIGGER WARNING - Posts may require application of sarcasm filter)
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To: Texas Fossil

So, they just wantonly break into innocent people’s homes, without doing any surveillance?


25 posted on 09/16/2016 12:18:54 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: Texas Fossil

An apology is not sufficient. Someone dropped the ball big time on this, and there should be real consequences for them.


26 posted on 09/16/2016 12:20:31 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: Rusty0604

Just another day in the War on Us.


27 posted on 09/16/2016 12:24:12 PM PDT by sparklite2 (The game overs whether you play it or not.)
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To: Texas Fossil
>>When this kind of force is used, it must be clear what the target really is.
Otherwise, tragic results can happen.<<

You mean like tossing flash bang grenades in baby cribs or off’n “accidentally” the innocent owner of the wrong home?

I say...de-militarize our local law enforcement!

Besides, raiding a home using this kind of force for drugs?

28 posted on 09/16/2016 12:31:59 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Texas Fossil

Oops.


29 posted on 09/16/2016 12:33:52 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: faithhopecharity
Conservative legal organization tracking these sorts of things. It's not just one-zie two-zie.

It's happening often. Needs to stop.

https://www.rutherford.org/

30 posted on 09/16/2016 12:35:20 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

Thanks, you chose a good choice of source for related information;

(Police) Militarization Is More Than Tanks and Rifles: It’s a Cultural Disease, Acclimating the Citizenry to Life in a Police State

http://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/militarization_is_more_than_tanks_and_rifles_its_a_cultural_disease_acclima


31 posted on 09/16/2016 1:15:24 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: moovova

I don’t see anything about a flashbang grenade.

BTW it looks like they’re taking responsibility for the screw-up:

“The residents of the condo told CBS4 they are in shock over what happened, but they are happy the sheriff’s office is replacing all of the broken windows and front door. The office also says they will pay to put in new carpet because of broken glass that remains on the carpet from the raid.”


32 posted on 09/16/2016 1:16:17 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: wally_bert

LOL! This makes us old, doesn’t it? ;)


33 posted on 09/16/2016 1:17:40 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: faithhopecharity
just saying.... I am definitely beginning to question just how many of these forced police break=ins are really really necessary (or even the best tactic)

SWAT teams were first developed as a response to armed bank robberies / riot control. And when you give someone a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail. SWAT teams have been spread out way too much and now every little town has one. Their role should be completely limited to hostage situations or scenarios like major armed robberies. Like others have posted, no-knock raids should be simply waiting for the dude to walk out of the house, unless there's hostages present.

SWAT teams should also be only on a county level (under the Sheriff), except for maybe some of the bigger major cities. Maybe.
34 posted on 09/16/2016 1:28:56 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: -YYZ-

Jail time = real consequences. It would sober our little fascist ninja warriors up quickly.


35 posted on 09/16/2016 1:34:57 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: servantboy777; glorgau; VRWCarea51; WENDLE; Blue Highway; Paladin2; wally_bert; Georgia Girl 2; ...

We’ve all read about these cases. But police must remember that each time this happens, it is not a movie on TV, it affects real people, many are not guilty of anything.

This flies against our cultural standards. Serious effort must undertaken to prevent this and worse abuses.

Nothing is said about what can be the driving force behind aggressive police action. In some states and local areas Asset Forfeiture is a money motive for police to pursue these cases with unusual zeal.

Article about that in CO:

Colorado Starts Reforming Civil Asset Forfeiture Law

https://selfgovern.com/colorado-starts-reforming-civil-asset-forfeiture-law/


36 posted on 09/16/2016 1:35:04 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Nothing wrong with what happened in Philly back during the MOVE standoff. They were in a hardened bunker, blaring Cuban panther propaganda 24/7, shot a couple of cops, and randomly fired rifle shots down the street. And MOVE might not have burned had they not fired at firemen, and had not let months of garbage pile up in the house.


37 posted on 09/16/2016 1:39:44 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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To: faithhopecharity
I am definitely beginning to question just how many of these forced police break=ins are really really necessary

Possibly 10% are necessary.

The rest are just to justify the money spent on those expensive SWAT toys.

38 posted on 09/16/2016 1:40:48 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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To: Texas Fossil

the “civil asset forfeiture” business is a TREMENDOUS BLOT on America ....
police or state agents can just steal whatever you got

(and it probably happens MORE “off the books”.. without invoking any “civil asset forfeiture” rules...)

we need to find a way to put an end to the “civil asset forfeiture” racket (robbery under color of law)
AND .... that’s the easy part...........the harder part will be to figure out ways to screen out corrupt cops and state agents of various types that can just grab your stuff, money, whatever...deny taking it....and keep it all

Just as police have to be cautious with each and every person they stop...some of us law-abiding good respectable folks have learned we have to be cautious with every police officer or governmental official we encounter

the country’s been going downhill a lot these last 5 or 6 years especially.....


39 posted on 09/16/2016 1:43:53 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

ALSO,
whenever a government agent secures (or forces) entry into your home or office, s/he can steal whatever you got
(especially if s/he is armed... and maybe threatening possible arrest or whatever)

the best thing to do....even just to avoid any simple misunderstandings... is to keep them all OUT ....
if they need to talk with you, they can stay outside or telephone you, or you can call them


40 posted on 09/16/2016 1:46:03 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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