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To: yadent
Sigh... One more time;

It does not matter what their prices are; unless you are a cash customer. The reimbursement rate is fixed by the payor, i.e., MEDICARE, MEDICAID or private insurance.

The surgery center you mentioned is cash and carry.

From the FAQ: "What methods of payment are acceptable?

To keep our prices as low as possible, cashier’s checks or cash are the methods preferred. Credit cards are accepted on a case by case basis. Human resource departments or divisions of self-insured companies can make other arrangements if necessary.

They do not bill insurance.

For those who do have insurance; pricing is fixed by the payor. The provider will bill their customary fee and be paid a portion (usually 70-80% of the allowable). Yes, that amount is usually billed to the patient as a 'deductible' or 'out of pocket'. Makes no difference what the posted prices are.

It is a scam. A scam codified into law forcing everyone to pay into the system (insurance premiums) with little or no benefit from having insurance (high deductibles).

0bamacare forces the productive citizens to subsidize the dependent class. We get screwed from both ends; paying outrageous premiums and outrageous deducibles. It needs to be scraped; the insurance 'industry' gutted and everyone go full free market.

23 posted on 09/21/2016 5:01:08 PM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Islander7

“0bamacare forces the productive citizens to subsidize the dependent class. We get screwed from both ends; paying outrageous premiums and outrageous deducibles. It needs to be scraped; the insurance ‘industry’ gutted and everyone go full free market. “

Yes, but how is that possible? How can a free market in health care exist. How can we break the monopoly?


29 posted on 09/21/2016 10:09:17 PM PDT by benfranklinthomasjefferson (that's why we need it)
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To: Islander7
My family used to have a doctor who dealt only in cash and advertised that he carried no malpractice insurance. For all less than catastrophic medical it was less expensive to go to him than to carry health "insurance." Alas he got mixed up with his receptionist and his wife did not approve. He is doing something else now without either woman.

Health insurance as it has come to be is not insurance in the meaning of the term. It is prepayment of medical expenses which makes medicine more expensive because your premium has to support a host of people who do not give you antibiotics for your staph or set your broken leg. Now it also includes the necessary support for a host of clerks and bureaucrats. People wonder why medicine is so expensive.

32 posted on 09/21/2016 10:49:16 PM PDT by arthurus (Hillary's campaign is getting shaky)
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