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Donald Trump, in Pittsburgh, Pledges to Boost Both Coal and Gas
NY Times ^ | Sept. 22, 2016 | CORAL DAVENPORT

Posted on 09/22/2016 5:37:44 PM PDT by Innovative

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Excellent! This will provide cheap energy, which helps the economy.
1 posted on 09/22/2016 5:37:44 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

And UMW still endorsed Hillary.


2 posted on 09/22/2016 5:43:14 PM PDT by donozark (My thoughts are not very deep. But they are of and inquisitive nature.)
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On the one hand, the NYT loves electric cars.
On the other hand, the NYT criticizes Trump for seeking more fuel for power plants which generate electricity.


3 posted on 09/22/2016 5:43:35 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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Mr. Trump’s energy promises to those attending a corporate conference contained a fundamentally incompatible concept, as expanding the exploration of natural gas is the surest way to hurt coal production, and vice versa. Since the two fuels compete directly for the same market — the power plants that light American homes — it is effectively impossible to increase production of one without decreasing the other.

Stupid NYT. Think everything is static, a zero-sum game.

Actually, they want everything to be static, because that leads to helplessness and discontent, which leads to unrest, which creates lots of story possibilities for the scribblers of the NYT.

More energy production will decrease the cost of energy, which will lead to the growth of the economy. In a growing economy people spend less time naval gazing and looking for a handout; such people have little need for the NYT.

The NYT belongs to an intellectual movement that believes that inexpensive energy is among the worst things that can happen to the world.

4 posted on 09/22/2016 5:47:14 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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I’m Coral Davenport, and I’m stupid.

That’s why I write for the NY Slimes.


5 posted on 09/22/2016 5:50:51 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Excellent! This will provide cheap energy, which helps the economy.
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Caution!
That is advanced physics and thermodynamics that liberals cannot grasp. They just plug in their Chevy volt at night...there is nothing beyond their outlet.


6 posted on 09/22/2016 5:54:24 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Deplorable to the last drop. "I don't know how Trump won, no one I know voted for him")
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I don't care who the UMW endorses. The only concern is who their members will vote for.

Most labor leaders are nothing more than lap dogs for the Democrat Party, and their members know it. These guys routinely sell their members down the river by supporting big-government globalists who embrace every "free trade" deal that comes their way.

7 posted on 09/22/2016 5:57:15 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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Obama promised both times to shut down the mines. Still, the miners’ unions voted for him.


8 posted on 09/22/2016 5:58:11 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Steely Tom

There’s something to be said for that theory, since coal and natural gas DO compete for the same customers. However, what the author doesn’t recognize is that many utilities have different power plants on their grid that use different types of fuel, depending on fuel prices, export markets, etc. And coal is used for steel production, while gas is not.


9 posted on 09/22/2016 5:59:54 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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To: Innovative

Full Speech: Donald Trump Rally in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (9/22/2016) Trump Live Speech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxk3-k8tAIc


10 posted on 09/22/2016 6:03:22 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Trump is exposing the fifth column in the U.S.)
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The two fuels compete for a world market - not just an American market.


11 posted on 09/22/2016 6:05:32 PM PDT by blueplum ((March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?))
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Apparently the NYT consulted the world’s dumbest man (Paul Krugman) for this article-— to the NYT— google the word “exports”


12 posted on 09/22/2016 6:08:14 PM PDT by freespirit2012
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my son works in the gas fields of SW Pa and WV, one of the few still working, told me everything is on hold pending the election


13 posted on 09/22/2016 6:09:14 PM PDT by cork (Gun control = hitting what you aim at)
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There is little to be said for the theory other than the base premise is wrong. The assumption is that the electrical requirements are met either with coal or with gas. Both can flourish and have flourished together. What is hilarious is the NYT probably hates both, yet gets almost all their power from both. Wait, their power comes from that little rectangle on the wall so there is no harm to the planet. sarc


14 posted on 09/22/2016 6:12:08 PM PDT by PSUGOP
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Stupid NYT. Think everything is static, a zero-sum game.

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My exact thought as soon as I read their dumass analogy.


15 posted on 09/22/2016 6:16:40 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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[And UMW still endorsed Hillary.]

They can have fun on the welfare rolls then.


16 posted on 09/22/2016 6:17:28 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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Per BTU, coal is generally a cheaper source of energy than gas. On the other hand, gas provides feed for chemical plants. There does not have to be a conflict and historically, there was not. The problem with coal is the environmental restrictions, enacted by edict.


17 posted on 09/22/2016 6:17:55 PM PDT by LOC1 (We need a new President.)
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Another advantage of gas is that it is often a byproduct of oil extraction, so the supply is plentiful and costs almost nothing (that is, it's being tapped from the ground anyway in another process).

Another problem with coal is that cheap gas has probably done more to erode the use of coal than any environmental regulations did.

18 posted on 09/22/2016 6:23:18 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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Another advantage of gas is that it's cheaper to transport than coal.

The flip side of that, though, is that many areas of the Northeastern U.S. are facing gas pipeline capacity constraints, and Democratic politicians all over the place are putting the brakes on new pipelines.

19 posted on 09/22/2016 6:25:40 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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An absurd, zero-sum editorial.
These people couldn’t understand economics on the second try...


20 posted on 09/22/2016 6:28:06 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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