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To: dadfly

If Trump actually pulls off a win, there will be plenty of “rebels” ready to take out Ryan. Victory has many fathers, defeat is an orphan. Many Republicans will side with the Democrats to “Jesse Ventura” him, but there will be enough that will look at the vote-getting power of a winning president and decisde that’s where they should place their chips. Ryan won’t survive that.


129 posted on 10/22/2016 11:17:26 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (When you are going through Hell, keep going. #FreeJulian)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

again, i don’t have a crystal ball about what’s going to happen to ryan if he keeps his seat. history proves it’s really hard to get rid of these people. look how long boehner lasted and we knew he was a traitor in the lameduck of 2010. i just don’t see any factual or historical evidence for gop “rebels.” the election of 2010 should have brought out the “rebels” if they existed under your terms (victory has many fathers).

on the other hand, however, there is abundant evidence that the whole gop power structure hates Trump and we the people. imo, no election will change that, because that has been the history of the gop (e.g., Reagan being replaced by bush). Trump’s power base will be his own ability to “deal” with all comers and we the people acting as the stick, not d.c. thus we need to prove early and often that we can be an effective stick. thus ryan as a power hungry, two-face, backstabbing, proven enemy of Trump needs to go.

well you can have the last word if you want. going to bed.


130 posted on 10/23/2016 12:12:48 AM PDT by dadfly
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