No I don’t mean to offend... if you take offense... that is something you need to reflect upon...
As for you thoughts... it is simple... you believe there is no such thing as morality, all of it is cost vs. benefit. profit vs. loss, both variable perceptions and intensities.
So is it depending on what is beneficial... for you or society.. who makes the decision... If others disagree and they have more power... is that beneficial or not?
As such.. suing your reasoning.... anything may be found to be acceptable... so Hitler, if he had won WWII... would have been redeemed... because he triumphed over others thinking... and benefited his nation... so if enough find it acceptable... than such would be of most benefit?
IMHO.. there is morality in your argument.. but painfully, using your definition... it is up to those with greatest power and influence to define it... in addition to what is good.. and what is bad...
You assume to know there is no God.. but have stated you need proof... the first law of physics dictates the existence we live in is not possible... yet we are here... so is the first law invalid...?
Insanity is knowing a law exists that is fundamental to our very existence... and not understanding that something outside of that law defined it and satisfied it... Ask yourself... who defined the laws of the universe... they are observed... and measurable... thus defined... or do you hold... they just are what they are... there is no evolution of the physical law... it has always been this way... so again... how were they defined?
You may wish to believe science has yet to figure that out yet, but will... that is called faith in man and his intelligence....
In the end, science and man are the gods of atheists... you may not see it as such.. but you do have faith that there are answers to things that are unknown to us today... and man, using reason and science, will figure them out....
I believe that we live in a world of design and reason... for a purpose (to know and love God) based upon, and as dictated by, the unchanging laws we find in nature (chaos is not found in nature... it is predictable and governed by law)... I believe God defined those laws as well as all the matter in creation....
And yes... the Bible was transcribed by men, as moved by God, to let us know why we are here and what our purpose is... to let us know he was the Creator of all things.. including the laws of nature.. and the laws of human morality... and they are unchanging as He is....
To say they had no proof is not reasonable... they documented their proof in the Bible, their direct witness to events, and how they lived their lives after witnessing such....
You just don’t believe them... dismissing their accounts because it involves the super natural, which you believe does not exist... that is part of your faith as well... you have no proof they lied... yet you condemn them for it.
I wish you well... and again, I mean no offense... even if you believe I do... so I hope you take none....
Amazing... His very name translates to the
No I don’t mean to offend... if you take offense... that is something you need to reflect upon...
SO YOU LIE AS WELL. typical of people that have messiah/christ complex.
As for you thoughts... it is simple... you believe there is no such thing as morality, all of it is cost vs. benefit. profit vs. loss, both variable perceptions and intensities.
So is it depending on what is beneficial... for you or society.. who makes the decision... If others disagree and they have more power... is that beneficial or not?
As such.. suing your reasoning.... anything may be found to be acceptable... so Hitler, if he had won WWII... would have been redeemed... because he triumphed over others thinking... and benefited his nation... so if enough find it acceptable... than such would be of most benefit?
History is written by the victors. A GOOD EXAMPLE is the jesus blood sacrifice and body eating/blood drinking.
only a god can do to absolve you of your sins, how dare I say, I can pay for my own mistakes.
IMHO.. there is morality in your argument.. but painfully, using your definition... it is up to those with greatest power and influence to define it... in addition to what is good.. and what is bad...
that’s the way it is. I disagree with roe vs. wade ,not because of a religious excuse but a scientific and logical one. because roe v.wade is now the law, because it won. the powerful now force it on all.
You assume to know there is no God.. but have stated you need proof... the first law of physics dictates the existence we live in is not possible... yet we are here... so is the first law invalid...?
you haven’t offered a ptoof that we are here.
Insanity is knowing a law exists that is fundamental to our very existence... and not understanding that something outside of that law defined it and satisfied it... Ask yourself... who defined the laws of the universe... they are observed... and measurable... thus defined... or do you hold... they just are what they are... there is no evolution of the physical law... it has always been this way... so again... how were they defined?
You may wish to believe science has yet to figure that out yet, but will... that is called faith in man and his intelligence....
In the end, science and man are the gods of atheists... you may not see it as such.. but you do have faith that there are answers to things that are unknown to us today... and man, using reason and science, will figure them out....
I believe that we live in a world of design and reason... for a purpose (to know and love God) based upon, and as dictated by, the unchanging laws we find in nature (chaos is not found in nature... it is predictable and governed by law)... I believe God defined those laws as well as all the matter in creation....
And yes... the Bible was transcribed by men, as moved by God, to let us know why we are here and what our purpose is... to let us know he was the Creator of all things.. including the laws of nature.. and the laws of human morality... and they are unchanging as He is....
To say they had no proof is not reasonable... they documented their proof in the Bible, their direct witness to events, and how they lived their lives after witnessing such....
You just don’t believe them... dismissing their accounts because it involves the super natural, which you believe does not exist... that is part of your faith as well... you have no proof they lied... yet you condemn them for it.
proof denies the need for faith.
so do you have faith or proof? you cannot have both. it is one or the other, what does your bible say about faith and proof? the ones I have read said you can only be pleasing to god if you have faith. so which is it?
I wish you well... and again, I mean no offense... even if you believe I do... so I hope you take none....