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Obamacare’s Architect Reveal His Master Plan To Fix The Law: Bigger Penalties
thefederalist.com ^ | October 26, 2016

Posted on 10/26/2016 9:12:50 PM PDT by Helicondelta

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To: cba123

Well; I don’t consider myself to be a GOPer (more of a Constitutionalist) but lets give it a try, shall we?
1: Allow everybody to create and own a tax free medical/health care account.
2: Allow all health care and health insurance companies to compete for business across state lines (no artificial barriers).
3: Allow health care portability for people who are moving to another city or state.
4: For the young and stupid who don’t think they need health care or don’t want to pay for it; calculate the median costs of a doctors visit, emergency room care, maternity care, etc. etc.
Calculate the median costs of these services nation wide; that is the bill the patient will be responsible for paying over a 20 month period (to be extended if the bill is huge), the payment can be voluntary or through wage garnishment, if were talking about the chronicaly unemployed (the sick, lame, lazy, or crazy) the debt can be paid through public service at a local hospital (good job training also).
Pre existing conditions can be insured through a specialty group of insurers that insure those patients only; yes, the costs would be higher but it could be made to work.
Those are just some ideas; maybe good, maybe bad, but it’s better than what you have now.


41 posted on 10/26/2016 11:31:12 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Helicondelta

There is a point where higher costs and higher penalties cross, beyond which either results in collapse.


42 posted on 10/26/2016 11:36:31 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: PGR88

“A nice penalty would be gruber hanging from a bridge”

Yes, in a cage. Somebody release the crows!


43 posted on 10/26/2016 11:48:33 PM PDT by beelzepug (For English press #1; for Spanish, learn English and press #1)
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To: cba123

Look kid; just go back to Canada or England or Sweden or France and wait in line for their state provided health care.
I am pretty sure you don’t have to worry about prostate cancer, but when the lung cancer kills you from all that youthful dope smoking while your waiting in line, just remember THE HEALTH CARE IS FREEEEE.


44 posted on 10/26/2016 11:48:41 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: bigbob
it they make everybody buy insurance its going to be so easy to just enroll them on the new bama care single payer...

its only for the workers and the people that have a stake in this country...not for the freeloaders and the illegals...

45 posted on 10/26/2016 11:50:24 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cba123
doubt you are "gop" and not many here are "gop"...

we're just the idiots sold down the river by this country...

what would we do?....desolve it entirely....let people buy insurance across state lines and let people buy insurance if they want for their needs only....

46 posted on 10/26/2016 11:52:28 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cba123

Newbie alert......


47 posted on 10/27/2016 12:50:48 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

I’ve been a FReeper since 2005.

If that is what you were saying. :D


48 posted on 10/27/2016 12:53:02 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: Ann Archy

So help me, Gruber would be in the dock if we were ever to hold a Nuremberg-style trial for the Leftist leadership.

How many have died because they lost their insurance? Does Gruber have blood on his hands?


49 posted on 10/27/2016 12:59:17 AM PDT by Nothingburger
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To: Voluntaryist

Without higher taxes how else can Obamacare pay for free sex-changes?


50 posted on 10/27/2016 1:08:07 AM PDT by RonnG
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To: Helicondelta

How about that! Progressive ideas only work by force.


51 posted on 10/27/2016 2:04:26 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: SierraWasp

But the GOP virtually did nothing to help Ted Cruz when he was on the floor of the senate for 24 filibustering to stop obamacare. ...although in retrospect that was all a set up staged for CRuz to run for president and CRuz (and the globalist Bushes he works for) had no intention of stopping obamacare...


52 posted on 10/27/2016 2:19:30 AM PDT by uncitizen (Drain.The.Swamp!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
> I agree. The increased penalty should be Zero and Gruber go to prison for the rest of their natural lives.

I'd personally rather see a noose around his neck.

53 posted on 10/27/2016 2:24:18 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: cba123
The dems had the right idea on this.

Incorrect.

It is not a good system, but we had none.

Also incorrect.

We had a system where the majority of people had health insurance (which is quite different from health care) and those that did not had various government and charity options.

The system actually worked.

Now we have a system where less and less people have health insurance that covers less and less, charities are being forced not to help and the various government programs are FUBAR.

54 posted on 10/27/2016 2:26:52 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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To: cba123
So you got thrown out and now have sneaked back in under a new name.

Murry Mom is that you?

55 posted on 10/27/2016 2:29:23 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

No I posted as Cringing Negativism Network until this year.

I have been overseas, and did not want to use that login. Now I’m sort of just using the new one.

I am not Murry Mom. :D


56 posted on 10/27/2016 2:33:27 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123
What would we as the GOP, do differently? Do not simply criticize the alternative, if we have no idea ourselves how to fix things.

1. Calling the posters and lurkers on FR "we, the GOP" ain't cool.

2. The Obamacare law is thousands of pages long, expecting any one on here to give you a 100 or 200 word fix to it is unrealistic. I would have to write a several hundred thousand word post to explain the problems and potential solutions for Obamacare.

3. When they got rid of that whole pre-existing condition clause, what did you think would happen?

57 posted on 10/27/2016 2:34:27 AM PDT by j. earl carter
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To: Helicondelta

Well, I don’t think the law can “work”, but, inasmuch as the core concept is higher taxes to pay for medical care of people who otherwise would pay nothing, with those higher taxes called “penalties”, then, yes, they have to be much higher or the system will collapse.


58 posted on 10/27/2016 2:40:45 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Look out kid, they keep it all hid)
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To: uncitizen
...although in retrospect that was all a set up staged for CRuz to run for president and CRuz (and the globalist Bushes he works for) had no intention of stopping obamacare...

You really don't know much about Cruz, do you?

59 posted on 10/27/2016 2:47:39 AM PDT by okie01
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Somebody should cut off his head with a dull knife.


60 posted on 10/27/2016 2:48:51 AM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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