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Three (perfectly democratic) reasons Donald Trump will absolutely smother the Paris climate deal
Financial Post ^ | Nov 21, 2016 | Benny Peiser

Posted on 11/28/2016 5:59:48 AM PST by upchuck

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To: Tench_Coxe

“French president Francois Hollande stated that Trump has no option.”

Also, it should be noted that the French “have another option,” coming up, electing a new president, and it’s not going to be him. It is going to be interesting to see which countries in Europe opt for conservative governments in the coming months. One thing is certain, if the Krauts re-elect Merkel, Germany is done as a country.


21 posted on 11/28/2016 8:10:12 AM PST by vette6387
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To: upchuck

Number 1: It is illegal. It was never ratified by the Senate as required by the Constitution.


22 posted on 11/28/2016 8:20:13 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: upchuck

The deal was never sent to the Senate for advise and consent as is required for treaties negotiated with foreign powers under Article II section 2


23 posted on 11/28/2016 8:21:24 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: elcid1970

What about Marine Le Pen?
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Marine Le Pen is the head of the Front National. I said Fillon or the Front National would be better bedfellows to the US.


24 posted on 11/28/2016 8:46:16 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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Let’s say that the treaty makes it to the senate and they actually vote to approve the treaty (a possibility - given some of the weak-kneed GOPe type).

Would the president still have “veto” authority?


25 posted on 11/28/2016 8:48:01 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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So you are saying that Agenda 21 and the Small Arms Treaties are “In Effect?” Don’t think so.


26 posted on 11/28/2016 8:50:30 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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Would the president still have “veto” authority?
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Of course.


27 posted on 11/28/2016 9:55:24 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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There would not be a veto, because he already approved it by presenting it to the Senate.

The Senate does not ratify treaties—the Senate approves or rejects a resolution of ratification. If the resolution passes, then ratification takes place when the instruments of ratification are formally exchanged between the United States and the foreign power(s).

http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Treaties.htm


28 posted on 11/28/2016 11:09:24 AM PST by marktwain
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Didn’t the senate reject the “Paris deal” by an overwhelming margin, causing Obama to “agree” to it, with no force of law?

Mark


29 posted on 11/28/2016 12:40:02 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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“Let’s say that the treaty makes it to the senate and they actually vote to approve the treaty (a possibility - given some of the weak-kneed GOPe type).

Would the president still have “veto” authority?”

Huh? I don’t think it works that way. The President sends treaties to the Senate for them to approve, with the idea that if they do, that’s what the President wanted them to do. So I don’t think that the President has to power to veto their actions as they are not making law, they are following their Constitutional Duty to “Advise and Consent!” If the President didn’t want the treaty approved, he would not have sent it to them in the first place.


30 posted on 11/28/2016 6:35:53 PM PST by vette6387
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You’re right. I slipped up there. Too much gobbler I suppose. :>)


31 posted on 11/28/2016 7:24:36 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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