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Green Party Rebels Against Jill Stein: "We Do Not Support The Recount"
Zero Hedge ^ | 11/29/2016 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 11/29/2016 10:59:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind

In a letter penned by Green Party Senate Candidate Margaret Flowers, and signed by dozens of prominent GPUS members, the Greens have rebelled against the farcical "recount effort" conducted by Jill Stein, saying "while we support electoral reforms, including how the vote is counted, we do not support the current recount being undertaken by Jill Stein."

The reason for this is that as the author notes, "as a candidate, Dr. Stein has the right to call for a recount. However, we urge the GPUS to distance itself from any appearance of support for either Democrats or Republicans. We are well aware of the undemocratic actions taken during the primaries by the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Greens cannot be perceived to be allied with such a party."

Flowers points out that the decision to pursue a recount "was not made in a democratic or a strategic way, nor did it respect the established decision making processes and structures of the Green Party of the United States (GPUS).  The recount has created confusion about the relationship between the Green and Democratic parties because the states chosen for the recount are only states in which Hillary Clinton lost. There were close races in other states such as New Hampshire and Minnesota where Clinton won, but which were not part of the recount. And this recount does not address the disenfranchisement of voters; it recounts votes that were already counted rather than restoring the suffrage of voters who were prevented from voting."

In the letter Flowers also makes a case for pushing with electoral college reform and demanding transformative changes which remain impossible under the current political structure:

"The Green Party cannot build the political power necessary for the transformative changes we need by allying with two capitalist parties that serve the interests of the wealthy. That is why it is imperative that the Green Party is independent of those parties. We stay independent to give people an alternative to the corruption of two money-based parties. Greens reject donations from corporations and their political action committees to ensure we are accountable to the people and so that the people’s agenda is not superseded by the corporate agenda."

The letter slamming Stein follows a similar reaction by various prominent Democrats who have also accused Stein of engaging in a "time wasting scam."

In light of the rising tide of opposition against Stein's "effort" from all sides, including her own party, it is unclear how much longer this allegedly "crowdfunded" effort will persist.

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Full letter below:

Greens Speak Out on Recount and Our Commitment to an Independent Party

We write to reaffirm our commitment to building a Green Party that has a radical analysis of the society in which we live, and promotes bold solutions to transform our society and address the root causes of those crises; a Green Party that is independent of the two money-dominated parties.

There is a deep social crisis in the US. This crisis manifests in countless ways. One of its central manifestations is through the political system. People have legitimate concerns about the electoral system, which is manipulated through wholesale voter disenfranchisement, massive voter suppression and the racist and undemocratic historical logic of the Electoral College. In all fifty states, voters from poor and marginalized communities, especially Black people and other communities of color, have their votes suppressed and are excluded from participation through various practices.

The Green Party cannot build the political power necessary for the transformative changes we need by allying with two capitalist parties that serve the interests of the wealthy. That is why it is imperative that the Green Party is independent of those parties. We stay independent to give people an alternative to the corruption of two money-based parties. Greens reject donations from corporations and their political action committees to ensure we are accountable to the people and so that the people’s agenda is not superseded by the corporate agenda.

There are significant electoral reforms needed to make elections more democratic and more representative of the people. While we support electoral reforms, including how the vote is counted, we do not support the current recount being undertaken by Jill Stein.

The decision to pursue a recount was not made in a democratic or a strategic way, nor did it respect the established decision making processes and structures of the Green Party of the United States (GPUS).  The recount has created confusion about the relationship between the Green and Democratic parties because the states chosen for the recount are only states in which Hillary Clinton lost. There were close races in other states such as New Hampshire and Minnesota where Clinton won, but which were not part of the recount. And this recount does not address the disenfranchisement of voters; it recounts votes that were already counted rather than restoring the suffrage of voters who were prevented from voting.

As a candidate, Dr. Stein has the right to call for a recount. However, we urge the GPUS to distance itself from any appearance of support for either Democrats or Republicans. We are well aware of the undemocratic actions taken during the primaries by the DNC and the Clinton campaign. Greens cannot be perceived to be allied with such a party.

We remain committed to the Green Party’s four pillars and ten key values, which have at their foundation grassroots democracy. We urge the GPUS to prioritize its efforts on building our party from the bottom up, working and organizing in direct solidarity with our state and local parties and alongside and in defense of the rights of those most affected by the injustices of a capitalist, white supremacist and undemocratic system. This includes support for local efforts to prevent the disenfranchisement of people of color via voter suppression or because of felony convictions and to be more inclusive and participatory in our decision-making processes and work.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: greenparty; jillstein; recount; whoops
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess old Hill needs to grease a few more green palms to get everyone with the program.


41 posted on 11/29/2016 11:55:07 AM PST by KosmicKitty (Waiting for inspirations)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, I suggest you take your party back from this nutcase. Also separate her from all the funding she has scammed.


42 posted on 11/29/2016 11:55:47 AM PST by pfflier
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To: M Kehoe

Does the Green Party keep it or does Jill Stein keep it?


43 posted on 11/29/2016 11:57:30 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: TBP

I honestly think her actions are so transparent, she won’t be able to be elected to the local PTA.

Self-destruct...


44 posted on 11/29/2016 11:57:39 AM PST by DoughtyOne (jcon40, "Are we be coming into the age of Sanity?")
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To: SeekAndFind

Another 10 million and the Grannies can get it done.

Pray America woke


45 posted on 11/29/2016 11:59:52 AM PST by bray (The Silent Majority ROARED)
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To: SeekAndFind

Stein probably assumes that the 2020 nomination is hers for the asking, so she is piling up cash for the 2020 race. She needs to be primaried.


46 posted on 11/29/2016 12:10:37 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: SeekAndFind

Good for them!


47 posted on 11/29/2016 12:11:28 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Maine Mariner

Who knows, but she has two hours to file it. Furthermore, she has to have 1/2 of the money on her site as real liquid cash, not pledges, and an issuing authority that WEC will accept.


48 posted on 11/29/2016 12:16:07 PM PST by struggle (The)
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To: struggle

So she needs a certified check or cashiers check for what two million dollars by 5 pm EST?


49 posted on 11/29/2016 12:21:23 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Maine Mariner

No. I believe she needs the full amount of 3.5 million and some sources are saying that’s been revised to 4 million.


50 posted on 11/29/2016 12:23:23 PM PST by struggle (The)
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To: Maine Mariner

Furthermore, the Green Party has already disavowed any support of her fundraising.


51 posted on 11/29/2016 12:23:55 PM PST by struggle (The)
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To: struggle

And it must be some form of legal tender, correct?


52 posted on 11/29/2016 12:24:41 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Maine Mariner

I believe the exact wording is “Cash or any payment method seen as acceptable to the clerk” so a bit ambiguous.


53 posted on 11/29/2016 12:26:00 PM PST by struggle (The)
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To: struggle

I saw that too! So she is doing this on her own to benefit all mankind oops all personkind with no self enrichment motives. What a great American. We need more like her!


54 posted on 11/29/2016 12:26:47 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: struggle

Something that the clerk could take to the bank and that the bank would accept!


55 posted on 11/29/2016 12:27:31 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: struggle

Certified check....electronic transfer...


56 posted on 11/29/2016 12:35:27 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind
The recount has created confusion about the relationship between the Green and Democratic parties because the states chosen for the recount are only states in which Hillary Clinton lost. There were close races in other states such as New Hampshire and Minnesota where Clinton won, but which were not part of the recount.

I guess some Green Party voters are slightly smarter than I gave them credit for. Even they know that Hillary Clinton's people are behind the recount, and that they're using Jill Stein as their puppet to push this so that Hillary can save face and not look like a sore loser.

If any state deserves a recount on statistical grounds, it's NH, where Hillary won by only a few hundred votes. Obviously, this isn't being done in the name of accuracy, it's being done to harass Trump and his people as they try to build a transition team.

57 posted on 11/29/2016 12:43:47 PM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: SeekAndFind

The green fascists belatedly realise they are being pulled into a pit.

Hopefully too late. Their policies on denying coal-based electricity kill at least two million people every year. Screw’em.


58 posted on 11/29/2016 1:25:41 PM PST by agere_contra (I will be glad and rejoice in your love, for You saw my affliction and knew the anguish of my soul.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

I suspect by 2020 the American economy will be humming along at a record pace, we will again be respected in the world and Americans will be looking forward to the future with optimism.

I wonder which Democrats will volunteer to be Walter Mondale.


59 posted on 11/29/2016 1:30:35 PM PST by JennysCool
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To: SeekAndFind

Green green it’s green they say
On the far side of the Hill


60 posted on 11/29/2016 1:31:06 PM PST by Phil DiBasquette
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