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Glad there's no election rigging...unless they think it benefits @realDonaldTrump
1 posted on 11/29/2016 12:15:50 PM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

AND..... if we used logic, reason and experience. FOR WHOM MIGHT THEY HAVE VOTED. Curious minds are asking.


2 posted on 11/29/2016 12:17:41 PM PST by rovenstinez (A)
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...if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally...

Note that he did not say "Non citizens", he said people who VOTED ILLEGALLY.

This includes dead people voting, people who voted more than once, illegal aliens voting, legal aliens voting, and ballot box stuffing.

He could very well be right on the "millions" estimate.

3 posted on 11/29/2016 12:24:33 PM PST by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: markomalley

Add that to the 2 or 3 million in California alone, and it adds up fast


4 posted on 11/29/2016 12:30:54 PM PST by Ingtar (Don't blame me. I already voted for Trump.)
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To: markomalley
One "expert" says 800,000 - another "expert" says 2-3 million.

I'm inclined to go with 800,000 in California alone, 2-3 million nation-wide.

5 posted on 11/29/2016 12:31:55 PM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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We are expected to believe that in 2016 many California districts had a 70-80% turnout - for Hillary Clinton?

http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/status/

when the average turnout rate for obama in 2012 was 55%?

http://www.electproject.org/2012g


6 posted on 11/29/2016 12:32:06 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: markomalley
that number doesn’t overcome Clinton’s 2.2 million popular vote lead

Well the dead people, felon vote, and multiple voters, and the write-in votes by the automobile trunk-load should make up the difference.

9 posted on 11/29/2016 12:37:42 PM PST by laweeks
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To: markomalley

Obama urged them to do it, saying there would be no repercussions.

Isn’t that some sort of violation of his oath of office?

He swore to uphold the U.S. Constitution.

Prosecute the bastard.


10 posted on 11/29/2016 12:58:03 PM PST by DoughtyOne (jcon40, "Are we be coming into the age of Sanity?")
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To: markomalley
Didn't they catch one guy (1 GUY!) in Florida who had 10,000 ballots in his car?


11 posted on 11/29/2016 1:00:20 PM PST by Malone LaVeigh
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To: markomalley
I'm quite willing to believe that the number of non-citizens who voted, while substantial, was not enough to overcome Hillary's margin over Trump in the popular vote. But it doesn't really matter. What Trump did by tweeting about it is to troll the media into debating the siz of the non-citizen vote (since nobody's going to believe it was zero). And that in turn concedes the underlying premise, that some non-citizens did cast votes which were clearly illegal. Hence something must be done to tighten up our voter ID laws and in general prevent voter fraud. There's no reason that Congress can't pass laws (which Trump will happily sign) to impose strict requirements on federal elections, even if some states like California have loose-to-nonexistent requirements for state and local elections.
12 posted on 11/29/2016 1:03:03 PM PST by dpwiener
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“should start prosecuting noncitizens who are voting”

Good luck with that. The problem is with states like CA where illegals can vote on local issues. When they register, their registration is based on residency only.

When they vote, they get the same ballot as everyone else, not just a ballot with local-only stuff (no such ballot under CA election code).

And, with no name or id number on the ballot, there’s no telling if someone who checked the prez box was doing so legally.

In other states, like MD, I don’t think the state itself allows this, but it DOES allow incorporated areas to allow illegals to vote if they are residents.

Unfortunately, the registration process has the same result when it comes time for fed election.


13 posted on 11/29/2016 1:17:17 PM PST by fruser1
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Would like to see the non citizens off the books and also the people who are voting in 2 different state’s. I thought Biden making a so called mistake when he Was in Virginia speaking and calling it NC was a signal for people to vote illegally in both places.


14 posted on 11/29/2016 1:18:53 PM PST by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote

Excerpt:

Since 80 percent of noncitizens vote Democratic, according to the study, noncitizen participation could have “been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes [in North Carolina in 2008], and Congressional elections” such as the 2008 race in Minnesota in which Al Franken was elected to the U.S. Senate, giving “Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote” to pass Obamacare. The Old Dominion/George Mason study was sharply attacked by progressive critics, but the mounting evidence makes clear this is a real problem.
15 posted on 11/29/2016 2:13:14 PM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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“The basic assumptions on which the extrapolation is based are that 6.4 percent of noncitizens voted, and that of the noncitizens who voted, 81.8 percent voted for Clinton and 17.5 percent voted for Trump. … 6.4 percent turnout among the roughly 20.3 million noncitizen adults in the U.S. would add only 834,318 votes to Clinton’s popular vote margin.”


A few comments:

1) We ALL know the effect when we ASS U ME something.

2) Who says that only 6.4% of non-citizens voted? This election was, more than any other single issue, about immigration - legal and illegal. The Dems pulled out all the stops to get immigrants to vote...so I don’t think that 6.4% is an accurate figure, it is probably too low.

3) Who says that there are only 20.3 million noncitizen adults in the U.S.? This website http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/distribution-by-citizenship-status/?dataView=1&currentTimeframe=0&selectedDistributions=non-citizen—total says that there are almost 23 million as of the end of 2015. Further, I have serious questions about the number of illegals in this country. It has been pegged at 11 million or so for many, many years - and yet there are reports of another 2 million illegals coming in each year. Well, I submit that there are probably more like 20 - 30 million illegals, plus the legal ones. You are more likely looking at about 30 million non-citizen adults.

4) Who said that 17.5% voted for Trump? That seems outrageously high, given the issues in this campaign and the incredible over-hyping of the immigration issue by the Dems. A “normal” Republican might get 15% - 20% of immigrants, but Trump would have been lucky to get 12%, with Hillary getting 87.5%.

Let’s use 8% of 30 million non-citizen adults voting 87.5% for Hillary and 12% for Trump. That, by itself (i.e. without dead voters and multiple voters, and the rest of the usual fraud by the Dems) would result in 1,812,000 extra votes for Hillary. Frankly, I consider that to be conservative - I believe there to be nearly 40 million adult non-citizens, and that at least 10% of them voted. However, my point is that anyone can play with numbers, especially since NO ONE KNOWS how many illegals there are, how many non-citizens vote, and who they voted for in this particular election.


18 posted on 11/29/2016 3:11:14 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: markomalley

Only 800k????


19 posted on 11/29/2016 3:43:12 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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If they are caught, deport and permanently bar them from future U.S. residency, green cards and citizenship. They have proved themselves willing to overthrow the U.S. government.


20 posted on 11/29/2016 3:55:09 PM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: markomalley

Trump should hunt them down and deport them.


22 posted on 12/05/2016 5:20:35 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: markomalley
I'm sure a California audit alone would hand Trump the popular vote.
23 posted on 12/05/2016 5:23:50 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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