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Clinton vs. Trump II, 2020
Townhall.com ^ | December 1, 2016 | Larry Elder

Posted on 12/01/2016 1:18:54 PM PST by Kaslin

Every sane person expects Green Party candidate Jill Stein's attempt to overturn the election with her vote recount effort to crash and burn. Given this, why would the Hillary Clinton campaign file a motion in support of a Stein-initiated request for a hand vote recount in Wisconsin?

Under the reasonable assumption that what's good for the Clintons is good for the Clintons, one is left with but one conclusion. Hillary Clinton's political death is premature. After the election, Donald Trump analysts, having seen the Clintons pull a raft of rabbits out of a hat, should know better. There is no such thing as the "end of the era of the Clintons."

With the Democrats' Trump Derangement Syndrome already in full bloom, and the clowns at MSNBC practically drafting articles of impeachment of President-elect Trump, Hillary Clinton expects the Trump presidency to be a disaster, or at least to be quasi-credibly attacked as such -- which is the same thing. Health permitting, she's gearing up for another shot in 2020. In fact, it's inaccurate to say "gearing up." She never stopped.

As usual, Clinton can count on a big assist by the major media that, for example, slams Trump for claiming that non-citizens voted while giving Stein/Clinton the soft treatment as they make similar assertions. When Trump balked at agreeing to accept the election results, Democrats and their media colluders dismissed concerns about voting integrity as "baseless" and "unsubstantiated."

Buoyed by her popular-vote margin of some two million over Republican winner Donald Trump and his slender, combined 100,000-vote margin in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, Clinton no doubt feels that Clinton vs. Trump Round 1 was hers to lose. Next time, better advisers. And no more taking the Midwest for granted.

Stein's recount effort will not produce enough votes to change the outcome, but it will feed the narrative that Trump is an interloper, elected by "outside interference" or some other dark possibility. Credibility is irrelevant as long as it feels true to enough non-Trump voters. Only in America can Stein lavish praise on dictator Fidel Castro, who ran unopposed, while protesting the legitimacy of Trump's victory.

Sure, Clinton blasted Trump for asserting, during the last pre-election debate, that he would not commit to accepting the election results: "That's horrifying. You know, every time Donald thinks things are not going in his direction, he claims whatever it is is rigged against him. ... This is? -- ?this is a mindset. This is how Donald thinks. And it's funny, but it's also really troubling. So that is not the way our democracy works. We've been around for 240 years. We've had free and fair elections. We've accepted the outcomes when we may not have liked them. And that is what must be expected of anyone standing on a debate stage during a general election. ... Let's be clear about what he is saying and what that means. He is denigrating -- he is talking down our democracy. And I am appalled that someone who is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that position."

But that was so October.

The shameless about-face on challenging the result was on full display when CNN's Wolf Blitzer questioned Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del., who supports Stein's recount.

"Jill Stein is taking advantage of an existing provision in the law that allows you to ask for a recount and pay for it within a certain period of time," said Coons. "Donald Trump is undermining the whole concept that this was a free and fair election by suggesting that literally millions of illegal votes were cast for which there is absolutely no evidence."

"But," said Blitzer, "you would have been adamantly opposed to it if Donald Trump had lost the election and Hillary Clinton won and he was doing what she is doing right now."

"We were concerned," explained Coons, "what Donald Trump might do is refuse to accept the results, and challenge them -- not the way Jill Stein is doing within the boundaries of the law and within a time and process set out -- but by simply refusing to accept the results and inciting his supporters around the country." In other words, had Trump questioned the results, he would have gathered up a mob and passed out pitchforks, knives and guns. Stein uses lawyers.

As for Clinton's role in all of this, with apologies to Sarah Palin, she can see November 2020 from her Chappaqua front porch.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020elections; hillaryrottenclinton; jillstein; larryelder
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1 posted on 12/01/2016 1:18:54 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
As for Clinton's role in all of this, with apologies to Sarah Palin, she can see November 2020 from her Chappaqua front porch.

Why apologize to Sarah Palin? He should apologize to SNL.

2 posted on 12/01/2016 1:20:40 PM PST by Cowboy Bob
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To: Kaslin

I have serious doubts that she will even be alive in 4 years!


3 posted on 12/01/2016 1:21:06 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Kaslin

she will need some major medical science research to run again in 2020

so far, resurrection is not a generally-available therapy


4 posted on 12/01/2016 1:21:46 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: Kaslin

She wants to be a three time loser.
Hillary is done, she’ll be lucky to live until 2020.


5 posted on 12/01/2016 1:22:58 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: Kaslin
I don't see her actually running.This recount,I think,is all about what Rush said the other day...that is,she wants potential donors to the Crime Family Foundation to *think* she'll run,thus causing them to think that they just might get something for their contribution down the road.

IMO,as important as power is to them,the Clintons are actually all about the Benjamins.

6 posted on 12/01/2016 1:23:36 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: Kaslin
Two words for anyone who thinks that damaging the legitimacy of Trump's election will really benefit Hillary Clinton in 2020:

AL GORE

That guy's political career came to an end in 2000 even though his loss was much closer than Clinton's in 2016. He was nowhere to be seen in the 2004 Democrat field, which eventually narrowed down to some useless jerk who ran for president after a long career as an Easter Island statue.

7 posted on 12/01/2016 1:24:14 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: Kaslin

Not gonna happen for a whole host of reasons.

1) Her health. From what I’ve seen she is not going to be in any shape to campaign in four years, if she even lives that long. She did not even really have the stamina for this campaign.

2) She’s not going to have any less baggage. There will be more WikiLeaks, and probably info about what the FBI knows about the server made public. She would come out of the gates with a 50 lb. anvil strapped to each ankle.

3) The BernieBots would never allow it. They’d go ape. They are blaming her for this loss. They are blaming her for Trump’s win. The long knives are out for her. They will never sign on to support her.

4) The Democrat Party generally feels it’s time to “Move On” from the Clintons and find some fresh leadership or direction. Otherwise they are going to continue to decline and hold sway in fewer and fewer parts of the country.


8 posted on 12/01/2016 1:24:36 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin

Are there any more children Hillary can bleed to keep her alive that long?


9 posted on 12/01/2016 1:25:50 PM PST by Organic Panic (Gentrification in America. Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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To: Kaslin

can we please get a ban on election 2020 threads till about Dec 2019?


10 posted on 12/01/2016 1:26:14 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
I have serious doubts that she will even be alive in 4 years!

She'll be getting the best health care available in her US Country Club Prison.

Even if she's hooked up to life support, she'd arguably still be partially living.


11 posted on 12/01/2016 1:27:40 PM PST by ASA Vet (Make US Intelligence great again!)
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To: Kaslin

by 2020 all three clintons will be in jail or dead.

https://danielsrepublic.wordpress.com/2016/11/27/pizzagate-this-is-what-evil-looks-like/


12 posted on 12/01/2016 1:29:38 PM PST by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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To: Alberta's Child
Two words for anyone who thinks that damaging the legitimacy of Trump's election will really benefit Hillary Clinton in 2020: AL GORE

That's probably the conventional thinking. I am not convinced she won't run in 2020. Four years is a long time. We shall see.

13 posted on 12/01/2016 1:30:55 PM PST by plain talk
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

Hope springs eternal...


14 posted on 12/01/2016 1:31:38 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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To: morphing libertarian
can we please get a ban on election 2020 threads till about Dec 2019?

You already have the ability to ban any thread you don't care to see. Just don't click on it.

Isn't freedom wonderful.

15 posted on 12/01/2016 1:31:54 PM PST by ASA Vet (Make US Intelligence great again!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Plus she would get clobbered should she somehow survive to run again in 2020. Don’t think she’d even get the nomination. Trump will likely have the highest ratings of an incumbent president since Reagan in 2020. Even now, people continue to underrate him.

I think the Dems run a black woman in 2020. They continue to focus on diversity for diversity sake.


16 posted on 12/01/2016 1:33:55 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: plain talk
Exactly -- four years IS a long time ... especially for someone who is already 70 years old and looks/acts ten years older.

In this age of 24-hour news TV and internet news coverage, it's almost a requirement for a political candidate to stay in the public eye regularly. Hillary Clinton did her best to stay OUT of the public eye even when she was campaigning for the White House.

I agree with other Freepers who say the Democrat Party will do their best to treat the Clintons like old gum on the bottom of a shoe. Her narrow loss in this election was only one part of the Party's disaster in 2016. They had every reason to believe that they could win control of the U.S. Senate simply because of the balance of incumbent seats up for election this year. The Senate results were actually more disastrous for the Democrats than Clinton's loss, and there's no doubt that she dragged the party down throughout the ticket in races all over the country.

17 posted on 12/01/2016 1:38:30 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: SamAdams76

Not to mention if you were one of her campaign workers who busted your butt for up to two years trying to get her elected, and she did not even come out to thank you? Sent Podesta instead? Would YOU go back and work for her again?

Supposedly she threw Bill and Chelsea under the bus for “not working hard enough”. I doubt they’re signing on again either.


18 posted on 12/01/2016 1:38:41 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin

Flow chart for “Will Hillary Run 2020”:

Is there a stake through her heart?

No >>>>>>>>> Hillary will run.

Yes >>>>>>>> Hillary will not run.


19 posted on 12/01/2016 1:39:00 PM PST by GnuThere
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To: ASA Vet

how do I stop it from coming up on the thread list

that’s for letting me know I can be a hermit and axis the 4-year election cycle.


20 posted on 12/01/2016 1:43:16 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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