The key is the supreme court! I pray president Trump can rein in the turtle and his ilk.
Trump would have won more popular votes if Red states had Senate races - well IN did have one and institution Bayh was beaten soundly.
Democrats harp the fact their candidates got more votes. Big deal.
At the end of the day, they lost and they’re in the minority.
In other words, Hillary! won the popular vote in CA, and Trump won the overall popular vote in the other 49 (or is it 56) states.
The U.S. Constitution specifically gives state legislatures the authority to determine how their presidential electors are determined. Every state has had a "popular vote" to select these electors for nearly 100 years, but it wasn't always done this way. More importantly, it doesn't always have to be done this way in the future.
I wish one state would change its method of determining its electors to something other than a popular vote -- just to put this stupid conversation about a "national popular vote" to rest.
Great article, with equally great followups here on FR.
The genius of the Founders continues to amaze, even though the things they feared aren’t the same as what we fear today. But in their quest to guard against a king-like ruler (or an ignorant population) they took the concept of a representative republic and applied it to choosing the chief executive.
The 538 ensures the inherent fairness of giving each of the states an equal voice. But democrats and liberals have always struggled with the notion that this is a constitutional republic, not a democracy, and have always been willing to contort the definition of “fairness” to suit their needs (i.e. until they win).
Have any alleged "news" peeps inquired as to why Mr. Comey hasn't looked into these allegations? Sounds as though it's ultra high priority to any reasonable observer, n'est ce pas?
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Heard this from a sports player on TV: “Yeah. You won the popular vote. That’s like getting your ass kicked in football but complaining that you won the most yardage.”
The faux stats about the senatorial races implies that the only fair way would be to tally up all the votes for senators and then divvy them up throughout the country so that the voters in California would be able to pick the senators in Idaho.
The factoid that is most interesting is that the rural vote for Trump canceled the minority votes for Hillary. Granted, the Black vote did not turn out in the overwhelming numbers that they did for Obama, but still interesting that the geniuses who never gave a thought to farmers, ranchers and small town dwellers should have.
In this year’s World Series, the Chicago Cubs won the title 4 games to 3. But both the Cubs and Cleveland Indians scored 27 runs in the seven games. Applying the argument liberals are using, there needs to be an eighth game, or at least more innings added to game 7 with the winner being whichever team scores the next run.
By this same argument, the Yankees should have been declared the winners of the 1960 World Series. They scored 55 runs while the Pirates scored only 27 runs. But the Pirates won four games on Bill Mazeroski’s 9th inning home run in game 7.
A state Senator from Wisconsin, says that if they don’t finsish the recount in time to certify the votes before December 19th, Wisconsins electoral votes will not be counted. Is that the same for MI and PA, if they don’t finish the recount in time to “certify” the states votes, they are not included in the electoral count?
Without California, Trump wins the popular vote by 879,761 and the electoral college 306-177.
THIS is why we need the electoral college. California makes a huge difference in one direction.
One thing the press won’t tell you is from 2000 to 2004, 2004 to 2008 and 2008 to 2012, Los Angeles County had an increase of approximately 20,000 (I believe the highest was about 25000, lowest 16000). From 2012 to 2016, they had an increase of 760,000. This was due to their new laws that allowed illegals to get drivers licenses. The DMV said in the article about it that they would not turn over the registration forms to the SoS office for verification (they just pushed the data in from a computer push, but not officially submitting the forms) until the SoS office came up with a plan to handle to registrations properly. CLEAR evidence of MASSIVE voter fraud, but let’s just let that go. Right? I mean, there’s never been real voter fraud, according to Obama.