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Trump's Carrier deal confuses corporate welfare with free markets
Washington Examiner ^ | 12/02/2016

Posted on 12/04/2016 11:05:28 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Texas Eagle

soooooooo to keep jobs here should we tax their products that are made by third world labor coming into this country?


21 posted on 12/04/2016 11:18:50 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: SeekAndFind

the precise details of these (early) ad hoc Job Saving actions........ may be open to some criticism

but they DO underscore the new American policy to at least CARE about Americans losing their jobs

this is VERY VERY refreshing, especially after these last 8 years of the Democraps not giving a rats-ass-damn about American citizens

IN due course, President Trump will work out reformed trade, tax, environmental, and labor policies...etc...
that will SYSTEMIZE this concern for Americans that we should have employment opportunities and NOT be callously thrown onto the scrap-heap of economics and life

once some reasonable, more balanced systemic policies are put in place, any criticisms of ‘crony capitalism’ or ‘picking winners and losers”...etc.... should ameliorate, dissipate

Mr Trump seems very aware of the direction we need to go in.
(It remains to be seen if such as McCain/Graham/etal. will help us or not)


22 posted on 12/04/2016 11:20:02 AM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: pissant

The left hates tax breaks regardless.

You’re right though PENCE did this deal and was working on it before he was even vice president elect.
states always give tax breaks to attract business.


23 posted on 12/04/2016 11:20:14 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: Texas Eagle

#neverreagan


24 posted on 12/04/2016 11:20:46 AM PST by ari-freedom (Chicken Little Concerned for Trump people are almost as annoying as NeverTrumpers!)
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To: PJammers

>>I also don’t understand by reducing taxes on a business is welfare.

Because, in the Progressive mindset, all money is the government’s money and what you keep is their “gift” to you. But you already know that. It’s what separates us from them.


25 posted on 12/04/2016 11:20:54 AM PST by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Texas Eagle

SEE POST 20


26 posted on 12/04/2016 11:21:12 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m a big supporter of protectionism in certain situations.Trade with our friends and allies (Canada,Europe,Japan and South Korea,for example) is one thing...trade with enemies like China and Mexico is an entirely different thing.


27 posted on 12/04/2016 11:21:53 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: ZULU

“Right. This article is just so much bull and i wonder why anyone is wasting space by posting it.”

I’m trying to figure out what all of these people are so outraged over.

Trump didnt give them a tax cut. Indiana did. Just like my state gives tax incentives to keep companies here and to lure them here. We gave out some to land a huge data center that has pumped millions into the local economy, with the promise of billions in the future.

http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2016/02/switch_putting_400m_into_first.html

Trump just helped negotiate it. Big whoop!


28 posted on 12/04/2016 11:22:42 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump, Ross and Mnuchin don’t need economic advice from bloggers, journalists and Senators who never created a single private sector job


29 posted on 12/04/2016 11:22:53 AM PST by ari-freedom (Chicken Little Concerned for Trump people are almost as annoying as NeverTrumpers!)
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To: Texas Eagle
Every company competing with Carrier for sales, capital and other resources, is at a disadvantage because they're paying for the favor Trump and Pence have given Carrier.

This is not sensical. I am from Washington State. When Lowery was gov., he gave Boeing many tax breaks to keep them in Washington. By keeping Boeing in Washington State, the jobs at Boeing were kept as well as the jobs from companies that supplied Boeing. And, that save many, many jobs that aren't readily apparent and are mostly hidden.

When Locke was gov., Boeing asked for some tax relief or they would move their headquarters to Chicago. He didn't give it to them and they move the headquarters. Boy, was he surprised. Typical, stupid democrat.

30 posted on 12/04/2016 11:23:43 AM PST by Parmy (II don't know how to past the images.)
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To: SeekAndFind
We need to stop giving the power over our culture to corporations.

Corporations are godless dictatorships.

Let's revive Main Street USA.

31 posted on 12/04/2016 11:23:48 AM PST by donna (I want to live in a Judeo/Christian country where we know that, before God, men & women are equal.)
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To: snarkytart
The federal government's job is to ensure as equal a playing field as possible, not to pick winners and losers.

This would be like an NFL referee giving the 49ers 10 points per touchdown just so they have a chance at winning a game.

BTW, I don't care how the 9ers are doing right now. Couldn't care less. I just used them as an example because they suck.

32 posted on 12/04/2016 11:23:53 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SSS Two
Free marketeers like me didn't have a candidate in this past election.

See Post #27

33 posted on 12/04/2016 11:24:04 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is state income tax of about 6%. The deal with the state is to get lowered income tax by aid for not moving. Trump only gave a promise to lower federal tax and regulations. Indianapolis had to offer something to keep them from going somewhere else in the USA.


34 posted on 12/04/2016 11:24:22 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: donna

Exactly how do you revive “Maistreet” without more jobs?


35 posted on 12/04/2016 11:25:45 AM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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To: SSS Two

Kasich guy, huh?


36 posted on 12/04/2016 11:27:09 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Trump gave no favor to Carrier. The state of Indiana did in order to keep them from moving to another state. Trump didn`t need the tax break to keep them in the U.S.. He had all the leverage he needed to keep them here without it.


37 posted on 12/04/2016 11:27:21 AM PST by mbrfl
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To: SeekAndFind

Nafta with those huge trade deficits equals free trade?


38 posted on 12/04/2016 11:28:22 AM PST by Sybeck1 (The Reason for the Season)
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To: Parmy
Again, it's fine for states to do what they can to keep businesses from moving.

Not Presidents.

I realize Pence cut this deal but obviously at Trump's behest. Kind of a bummer.

I don't know how many A/C manufacturers there are in Indiana but I'm pretty sure there is only one airliner manufacturer in Warshington so that kind of falls under the apples and oranges thing.

Besides, as far as I know, Chicago is still in The U.S.

Its murder rate might rival that of Mexico's but, still.

39 posted on 12/04/2016 11:29:54 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Trump rationale for the deal would include the consideration that the US government is at fault for actively rigging the game against its own businesses and employees in favor of Wall Street connected foreign industrial and financial interests. From that perspective, the special inducements given to save jobs at Carrier are in part relief and compensation for damages previously done by the US government.


40 posted on 12/04/2016 11:31:30 AM PST by Rockingham
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