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To: SeeSharp

When the states separated from England was it not sovereignty they declared? My point is Sovereignty is not something granted by other states but rather declared by a state(Nation) itself. Add to this knowledge the fact that the treaty’s, most of them, allowed and maintained the different tribes were recognized as Nation States.

By the way Sovereignty means much more than what you think it means.
Sovereignty

The supreme, absolute, and uncontrollable power by which an independent state is governed and from which all specific political powers are derived; the intentional independence of a state, combined with the right and power of regulating its internal affairs without foreign interference.

Sovereignty is the power of a state to do everything necessary to govern itself, such as making, executing, and applying laws; imposing and collecting taxes; making war and peace; and forming treaties or engaging in commerce with foreign nations.

God Bless


94 posted on 12/06/2016 6:04:38 PM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Christendom, A Moral People, and Return to a Nation/s UNDER God!)
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To: jafojeffsurf
By the way Sovereignty means much more than what you think it means.

No. It really doesn't.

Sovereignty

The supreme, absolute, and uncontrollable power by which an independent state is governed and from which all specific political powers are derived; the intentional independence of a state, combined with the right and power of regulating its internal affairs without foreign interference.

Sovereignty is the power of a state to do everything necessary to govern itself, such as making, executing, and applying laws; imposing and collecting taxes; making war and peace; and forming treaties or engaging in commerce with foreign nations.


Every bit of what you wrote above boils down to just one power, the judicial power. Why can a state make laws? Because it has the right to decide whether or not it can make laws. Why can a state collect taxes, declare wars, form treaties, etc.? Because if anyone challenges its right to do so it gets to sit in judgement on the question and can simply rule in its own favor.

Sovereignty is the right to act as final judge in all disputes, including disputes involving the sovereign. Every conceivable power a state may exercise is wrapped up in this one statement.

95 posted on 12/06/2016 6:19:10 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: jafojeffsurf

If you think that American Indians are citizens of a ‘sovereign nation,’ you had better give the FBI a call and tell them to stop investigating and prosecuting felony crimes on RESERVATIONS.

By the way ‘Reservation’ means a lot more than you seem to think it does.


97 posted on 12/06/2016 6:36:52 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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