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The Latest: Federal Judge Sets Hearing on Michigan Recount [for 10:30am Wednesday]
ABC ^ | 12/7/2016

Posted on 12/07/2016 3:28:50 AM PST by Bulwinkle

A federal judge in Detroit has called a hearing for 10:30 a.m. Wednesday to consider whether Michigan's presidential recount should continue after an unfavorable ruling by a state appeals court. U.S District Judge Mark Goldsmith's order allowed the recount to begin Monday, but his decision dealt with the timing, not the merits of the count. On Tuesday, a Michigan appeals court ordered the state's election board to reject Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein's petition for the recount, finding that she had no chance of emerging as the winner in the state. Goldsmith's hearing on Wednesday could sort out whether the recount will be able to go forward or be halted.

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KEYWORDS: hillary; michigan; recount; stein; trump
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1 posted on 12/07/2016 3:28:50 AM PST by Bulwinkle
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To: Bulwinkle

Easy...wait and see..


2 posted on 12/07/2016 3:30:46 AM PST by Dog (..."I'm just a cook....")
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To: Bulwinkle

Does anybody know anything about this Judge?


3 posted on 12/07/2016 3:37:27 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Bulwinkle

What’s been fun about this, though, is the likely discovery of fraud that took place in Wayne County. Bet that’s why WJC was not crazy about doing the recount thing in the first place.


4 posted on 12/07/2016 3:39:09 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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The Judge is an Obama appointee....so this does not look good.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_A._Goldsmith


5 posted on 12/07/2016 3:39:29 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Bulwinkle

It will probably be halted.

And the law needs to be changed to prevent fringe party candidates from abusing the recount procedure.

A recount was intended to allow a legitimate losing candidate in a race in which the difference is a few hundred votes or less to legitimately challenge the outcome - with the possibility it could change the result.

It was not intended to be a fishing expedition to find alleged vote fraud or severe election irregularities. Elections are imperfect as is human nature and minor discrepancies in returns are expected and accepted as a normal part of voting patterns.

Jill Stein provided no proof to election authorities or the court that any hacking or vote fraud took place. The burden of proof should always rest on those who challenge the status quo.

That has not been met here and the recount should end.


6 posted on 12/07/2016 3:40:58 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Bulwinkle
"A federal judge in Detroit has called a hearing for 10:30 a.m. Wednesday to consider whether Michigan's presidential recount should continue after an unfavorable ruling by a state appeals court."

Interesting wording here. What was 'unfavorable' about it?

Seemed pretty favorable and appropriate, to me...

7 posted on 12/07/2016 3:42:02 AM PST by DJ Frisat (Hey, what happened to my clever tag line?!)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

It’s the same judge (Goldsmith) that created this mess.

https://www.docdroid.net/Xctd0vo/show-temp.pdf.html


8 posted on 12/07/2016 3:42:44 AM PST by Voluntaryist
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To: Bulwinkle

Michigan appeals court ordered the state’s election board to reject Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein’s petition for the recount, finding that she had no chance of emerging as the winner in the state.


9 posted on 12/07/2016 3:44:08 AM PST by boknows
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To: goldstategop; Cboldt

If the Fed Court over-rules the legitimate law of MI, it will return to 6th Circuit which will uphold a very clear and reasonable law if Michigan. JMHO


10 posted on 12/07/2016 3:44:34 AM PST by xzins
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To: xzins

There were two suits yesterday, and the federal one created today’s, which will be hearing the motion to dissolve TRO.


11 posted on 12/07/2016 3:47:17 AM PST by Voluntaryist
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To: DJ Frisat

The federal judge is going to defer to the state court ruling.

If its upheld on appeal by the MISC, the recount order will be vacated.

All of this could have been avoided had Judge Goldsmith dealt with the merits of the case in the first place.

There are none here and Stein has not met the evidentiary burden of proof for requesting a recount.

It need not be pointed out she can’t show she would be harmed in the absence of a recount - considering she got 1% of the vote in Michigan.

And no recount would change the election outcome in her favor.


12 posted on 12/07/2016 3:47:24 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Voluntaryist

I heard the 6th circuit pretty much told the district to reconsider if/when the MI court ruled on the merits.


13 posted on 12/07/2016 3:50:28 AM PST by xzins
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To: DJ Frisat
Sure wish we could get a ruling based simply on the law, and not on ideology or politics. As we've seen time-after-time, with the Clintons, in particular, and Dems/progressives, in general, laws that seem clear and easily understandable are often blatantly ignored or explained away with twisted rationalizations from the ruling class.

Is there really a 'rule of law' in this country anymore?

14 posted on 12/07/2016 3:52:18 AM PST by DJ Frisat (Hey, what happened to my clever tag line?!)
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To: xzins

6th Circuit allowed the recount to continue but told Judge Goldsmith to follow MI state law and if MI state courts make an adverse ruling, to defer to their interpretation of state election law.

And no federal constitutional issue is involved - Stein is not claiming any violation of her rights as a candidate and she had no standing to make a recount request in the first place.

Above all, the recount cannot be completed in time to allow MI to certify its electors to vote on December 19.


15 posted on 12/07/2016 3:53:40 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: xzins

Correct, 6th said “If the Michigan courts conclude that Stein has no right to a recount, the temporary restraining order should be vacated”

Also yesterday, the Michigan state COA said the recount should be ended.


16 posted on 12/07/2016 3:54:30 AM PST by Voluntaryist
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

He was given a chance to save face yesterday by the 6th Circuit. If he does not rule correctly today, they will smack him down.


17 posted on 12/07/2016 3:55:06 AM PST by DarthVader ("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
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To: goldstategop

Electors are certified on the 13th. They vote on the 19th.


18 posted on 12/07/2016 3:55:31 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Voluntaryist

I expect it to go to the MISC and end there.

MI will then certify the results so its electors can vote by Dec. 19.

All of this has been illuminating in how Jill Stein wasted millions of dollars on trying to upend the election result.

The hypocrisy of liberals on accepting the outcome has been laid bare for all to see.


19 posted on 12/07/2016 3:58:30 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: goldstategop
"The federal judge is going to defer to the state court ruling."

This is, of course, the outcome that we would see if it were based upon the rulings to this point. I hope it goes this way, but am afraid that political influence will raise its ugly head and we'll get some cockeyed interpretation again showing us that whatever the left wants, the left gets -- laws be-damned.

20 posted on 12/07/2016 3:58:34 AM PST by DJ Frisat (Hey, what happened to my clever tag line?!)
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