Sheriff's investigation finds Obama birth certificate 'fake'

World Net Daily ^ | 15 December 2016 | Bob Unruh

[Fractal Trader]

A years-long forensics investigation into the computer image of the long-form Hawaiian birth certificate image that Barack Obama released during a White House news conference during his first term and presented to the American people as an official government document reveals it is “fake.”

It also confirms those who were subjected to the derogatory “birther” label from many media outlets and Democrats for badgering Obama with lawsuits, petitions to the Supreme Court, and more, were right – at least in the dispute that the document was manufactured and the questions about Obama’s birth and legitimacy to be president under the Constitution’s requirements still are unanswered.

[ml/nj]

Sorry. I've had trouble scanning my OED. So I took some photos of the pages and tried to photoshop it but I just have so much time. Still I think you'll be able to read what you want here.

ML/NJ

[Fantasywriter]

In one of the two articles I posted to you (iicr, the second), the hospital spokesperson *claims* they received the letter from Neil Abercrombie. She agreed to ask him (i.e.: Governor Choomer) if he “remembered,” how he came into possession of it.

Being an Obama rump smoocher, I don’t expect you to comprehend how weird that is.

[DiogenesLamp]

What constitutes “real proof” that a state’s Secretary of State can get from another state?

Original documents... if they exist.

[Fantasywriter]

Bol. For some reason it really agitates you that Obama claimed Honolulu is in Asia. When I first mentioned that fact, you ridiculed it. You couldn’t believe Obama—he went to Harvard!—would come right out and state that Honolulu is in Asia.

So I provided proof.

And you gracelessly refused to admit you’d been wrong.

Try this one. Watch the video of Obama babbling about 57 states. He’s not gaffing. He’s giddily adding up the number of of US states—and the grand total is 59.

Spoken like a true, native-born American. (It wasn’t.)

[Fantasywriter]

Note: the final total Obama came up with when pratttling about the states was either 59 or 60. I’m actually remembering it more as 60, but I don’t feel like rewatching the video to verify that fact.

[Nero Germanicus]

They can be released for inspection via a court order.
Hawaii Revised Statutes §338-18 Disclosure of records.
(a) To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to ensure their proper use, and to ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record, except as authorized by this part or by rules adopted by the department of health.
(b) The department shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record. The following persons shall be considered to have a direct and tangible interest in a public health statistics record:
9) A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;

My personal favorite way to have inspected the original Obama birth certificate would have been via:
5) A person having a common ancestor with the registrant;

It turns out that Obama shares a common ancestor with the 2012 Tea Party endorsed U.S. Senate candidate for the Kansas Republican Party, Dr. Milton Wolf.
Dr. Wolf said that his cousin Barack Obama was the worst president in American history and because of their common ancestor, [Thomas Creekmore McCurry (1850–1939)], Dr. Wolf would be eligible to inspect or receive a certified copy of the Obama birth certificate.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_R._Wolf

[Seizethecarp]

Wow! Due to my ME/CFS, I did not recall Maraniss daring to write that. No wonder his book failed to achieve the sales that were expected for it, as Obots were supposed to buy it!

Where in the world was Stanley Ann in the months before she gave birth, if not at her parents address in the HI newspaper birth announcements, her only presumed address, right before she was proved to be in Seattle Washington the next month?

Canada is possible, as you suggest. Her WA (Blaine?) relatives sure get testy when the subject is raised with them, if I remember from the ObamaFiles experience with them.

Kenya is still in the mix, of course. We shall see where the evidence leads.

[Nero Germanicus]

Congressman Neil Abercrombie reading the Obama Congratulatory Letter at the Kapiolani Centennial celebration dinner:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9YpAa891AmA

[Fantasywriter]

Yes, Maraniss can take credit for destroying the last vestiges of the Obama nativity myth. Had Stanley Ann been in HI during her pregnancy, Maraniss would have turned up some clue, however meagre, to that effect. But in fact he not only came up empty handed, he demolished the claim that SA had been living with her parents at the time.

The residence listed on the cut and paste BC is a lie. Not even SA was there, much less SA and O Sr, as the newspaper announcements state. It’s all a fraud.

[4Zoltan]

Apparently not all of this is new stuff.

Mark Gillar mentioned the two hand stamp alignments back in 2013.

I think they over promised and decided they had to put something out.

[Fantasywriter]

Something interesting that doesn’t get posted often—whoever criminally expunged the National Archives was serious and thorough:

‘The Arpaio report, for instance, noted that “the INS records for foreign flights arriving in Hawaii during the week of Obama’s birth were missing, not only on the microfilm reels examined, but also in the primary database itself.”’

http://www.cashill.com/intellect_fraud/will_wa_po.htm

[Flaming Conservative]

There is a Mark Taylor prophecy that 2 Supreme Court justices will resign in disgrace.

[Flaming Conservative]

If it’s true that they were sealed by EO, then DJT can rescind that EO, just like any other.

[SkyPilot]

Interesting thanks. I don’t know much about Mark Taylor, but I looked him up and in 2013 he predicted Donald Trump would be President. Amazing.

[Fantasywriter]

Here’s some interesting analysis from the tech savvy generation. Does my heart good to see the wholesale loss of credibility Obama has suffered among the people who actually understand the issues with the cut and paste BC:

Dfensog

I posted this earlier:

If a problem in an airplane has a 1 in a billion chance of occurring the FAA says that problem has no credible chance of happening. Assuming the chances of each of them occurring is 1 in 100, which seems generous, the probability of all 9 of these “similarities” existing between those two birth certificates would be 1x10-18 , a one in a billion times a billion probability. If you assume the probability of each similarity is 1 in 10, there would still only be a 1 in a billion chance of all 9 similarities existing at the same time.

https://m.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5jvowu/about_a_week_ago_sherif_joe_arpaio_proved_obamas/

[Seizethecarp]

Thanks for that chilling additional information and for your excellent responses in support of SADO being in Seattle in 1961! It is the Mal-Val thread all over again...

[DiogenesLamp]

Thanks for posting that. It was more information than I previously had. I decided to find out what I could about the Starkey and Wyclif references. I didn't find much about John Wyclif other than that he dealt with the representative of the Anti-Pope Clement VII who was from Geneva Switzerland, (Indeed, he was the Count of Geneva) but Thomas Starkey spent 5 years living in Padua Italy, which is about 70 miles away from Switzerland, so I am speculating that he likely picked up the Swiss usage of the word from his exposure to it during that time period.

It is informative that they only list two usages of the word with that meaning prior to the 1770s, and quite a lot more usages of the word to mean "townfolk."

I know Shakespeare and Blackstone both used the word exclusively in the context of Town Folk, and the King James bible mostly uses it in that manner, and the one or two occasions in which it seems to mean the word as citizens of a country could be attributable to Wycliffe's influence. Apparently he was very instrumental in spreading the bible to the Masses back around 1380 or so.

I still maintain that post 1760s usage of the word, and especially the American usage of the word is directly attributable to Vattel's usage of it in his Law of Nation's book. Again I point out that the normal English word to describe members of a nation was "Subjects."

They must have chosen to use the Swiss meaning, which even your Oxford Dictionary indicates was the less common usage, over the ubiquitous and familiar word "Subject", because of Vattel's influence.

I've examined four other English dictionaries of the time period, and none of them have the Swiss meaning in them at all.

[4Zoltan]

The problem is that there are not 9 points of forgery. Here is what the press conference video says,

"Now we are going to focus on boxes 6d and 6e [error in video should be 7e]within the Obama PDF, both Xs were taken directly from box 6d in the Ah'Nee long form birth certificate in fact not only was the X pulled over but the box itself was pulled over and various parts of the line on top of the X were also pulled over according to forensic documents experts."

The problem is that the PDF boxes 6d and 7e are not identical so could not have been copied and pasted from the Ah'Nee box 6d.

The X in box 7e was altered by the scanning software and is at a different resolution from the X in box 6d.

In the AP copy there is a gap between the bottom of the "o" in "no" and the top of the X in box 6d.

There is no gap between the bottom of the "o" in "no" and the top of the X in box 7e.

The scanning software altered the image by coloring in pixels. It is ridiculous for anyone much less a document examiner to say that the X, the check box and portions of the word "no," in box 6d is identical to the X, the check box and portions of the word "no," in box 7e. Or that the Xs are in the same position.

[Fantasywriter]

So if there are only eight points of forgery, the document’s legit? [Disclaimer: I scanned what you wrote, but have no opinion on whether it’s a valid point or not. I’m stipulating that there may only be eight items. So what?]