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To: DiogenesLamp

No official who received a letter of verification refused to accept it without sworn testimony but I’m certain that the Hawaii Registrar could provide that if anyone ever required it.

Certified Letters of Verification are authorized by Hawaii Revised Statute HRS §338-14.3 Verification in lieu of a certified copy. (a) Subject to the requirements of section 338-18, the department of health, upon request, shall furnish to any applicant, in lieu of the issuance of a certified copy, a verification of the existence of a certificate and any other information that the applicant provides to be verified relating to the vital event that pertains to the certificate.
(b) A verification shall be considered for all purposes certification that the vital event did occur and that the facts of the event are as stated by the applicant.
(c) Verification may be made in written, electronic, or other form approved by the director of health.
(d) The fee for a verification in lieu of a certified copy shall be a maximum of one half of the fee established in section 338-14.5 for the first certified copy of a certificate issued.
(e) Fees received for verifications in lieu of certified copies shall be remitted, and one half of the fee shall be deposited to the credit of the vital statistics improvement special fund in section 338-14.6 and the remainder of the fee shall be deposited to the credit of the state general fund. [L 2001, c 246, §1; am L 2010, c 55, §1]

Kapiolani Hospital has a vested interest in Obama being born there. They used his birth to fundraise for their Centennial anniversary in 2009.


410 posted on 12/20/2016 1:59:21 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus
No official who received a letter of verification refused to accept it without sworn testimony but I’m certain that the Hawaii Registrar could provide that if anyone ever required it.

Are you kidding? All such Officials were thrilled to death to get this fig leaf that would get them off the hook from having to do their job.

It isn't real proof, but it was close enough to save them from having to be brave and demand some real proof.

Kapiolani Hospital has a vested interest in Obama being born there. They used his birth to fundraise for their Centennial anniversary in 2009.

That is not proof.

413 posted on 12/20/2016 2:43:33 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Nero Germanicus

‘Kapiolani Hospital has a vested interest in Obama being born there. They used his birth to fundraise for their Centennial anniversary in 2009.’

You and your half-truths are pathetic. The instant it was explained to Kapaolani that fundraising off Obama’s birth, unless he actually was born at Kapaolani, constituted fraud, the letter from Obama was hidden from public view. It has never again been publicly displayed, nor has Kapaolani ever again fundraised off the claim of being Obama’s birth hospital.

When you have to lie with partial truths, you are wrong/defending a lie.


414 posted on 12/20/2016 2:49:26 PM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls.tes JoeProbono)
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To: Nero Germanicus

Kapiolani Hospital’s Centennial anniversary year was 2009. The Kapiolani Foundation published a Centennial Magazine which included a congratulatory letter from Barack Obama mentioning Kapiolani as “the place of my birth.” The magazine was up on the Kapiolani Foundation web site for the centennial year of 2009. The Obama letter is on page 7.
Since 2009, Kapiolani is under new management, Hawaii Pacific Health and the former Kapiolani Foundation no longer exists.

“Kapiolani Medical Center 100 Years of Caring For Children 1909 to 2009”
https://www.scribd.com/book/52083178


416 posted on 12/20/2016 3:45:54 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
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