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The Cold War Is Over
First Things ^ | October 2016 | Peter Hitchens

Posted on 12/24/2016 4:02:09 AM PST by Nextrush

Like most Englishmen, I grew up with a natural dislike of "abroad" and a belief in the inferiority of all foreign things.........

... When I went to live in Moscow in 1990, I felt that I had somehow betrayed my native soil.....I still recall a brief return from the U.S.S.R. to my hometown of Oxford, during which I was asked for directions by an American tourist. "You must live here," he said, impressed by my historically detailed advice. "No," I confessed with a strange feeling of guilt. "I live in Moscow." For the first time in my life I had chosen to live in foreign parts, and very strange and hostile parts they seemed to be.

Yet the experience of living in that sad and handsome place brought me to love Russia and its stoical people, to learn some of what they had suffered and see what they had regained. And so, as all around me rage against the supposed aggression and wickedness of Vladimir Putin's Russia, I cannot join in. Despite the fact that Moscow had abandoned control of immense areas of Europe and Asia, self-appointed experts insist that Russia is an expansionist power. Oddly, this "expansion" only seems to be occurring in zones that Moscow once controlled, into which the E.U. and NATO, supported by the U.S., have sought to extend their influence.

The comparison of today's Russia to yesterday's U.S.S.R. is baseless. I know this, and rage inwardly at my inability to convey my understanding to others. Could this be because I have been unable to communicate the change of heart I underwent during my more than two years in the Russian capital?

Let me try again....

(Excerpt) Read more at firstthings.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia; Syria
KEYWORDS: donaldtrump; fsbputin; kgbputin; putintrolls; russianpropaganda; vladimirputin
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To: HLPhat

And they posted like crazy in this thread as we can see.....


21 posted on 12/24/2016 5:18:58 AM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: Nextrush

FACTS about your guy KGB Putin are “crazy”?


22 posted on 12/24/2016 5:24:24 AM PST by ETL (On the road to America's recovery!)
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To: Nextrush

This article really articulates what I have come to believe... that we, in the west, abandoned opportunities to rebuild Russia as we did with Japan and Germany after WW II.

As conservative as I am, I think the military/industrial interests of the US and Europe needed an enemy more then a rescued Russia. In the 90’s, China was not viewed as an imminent threat so Russia was needed to keep the money flowing. Good article.


23 posted on 12/24/2016 5:31:56 AM PST by Ron/GA
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To: ETL
>>FACTS about your guy KGB Putin are “crazy”?

How bout some FACTS regarding the antics of the Regime Change Investment club... that DIDN'T get elected last month...

[Day 61 - Where is (Clinton Foundation CEO) Eric Braverman?]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWl_6SOX4i4

 

24 posted on 12/24/2016 5:36:52 AM PST by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Ron/GA
>>I think the military/industrial interests of the US and Europe needed an enemy more then a rescued Russia.

BINGO.

It seems the "Club" sold the purpose of American government "TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" up/down/wherever the river.

#TSTR-MAGA!

25 posted on 12/24/2016 5:39:46 AM PST by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Nextrush

“The right to search for truth implies also a duty; one must not conceal any part of what one has recognized to be true.”
—Albert Einstein


26 posted on 12/24/2016 5:47:58 AM PST by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: HLPhat
How bout some FACTS regarding the antics of the Regime Change Investment club... that DIDN'T get elected last month...

You mean facts like that it was the Soros-supported Obama-Clinton admin who handed KGB Putin everything he wanted and more on critical missile defense and nukes, including the Iran nuke deal. This while O practically decimated our military. The last thing that KGB thug wants, as he goes about re-forming the evil empire that was the Soviet Union, or something close to it, is a strong American military. Trump-Pence promise to rebuild the military. That is NOT what Russia wants, despite the smoke and mirror BS coming from both Russia and the dems. Facts prove Obama was Putin's guy. But he used him like the willing saboteur that he is then tossed him aside.

27 posted on 12/24/2016 5:57:07 AM PST by ETL (On the road to America's recovery!)
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To: HLPhat
From the campaign trail, 2008...

Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs

February 29, 2008 :: News
MissileThreat.com

A video has surfaced of Presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama talking on his plans for strategic issues such as nuclear weapons and missile defense.

The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:

Thanks so much for the Caucus4Priorities, for the great work you've been doing. As president, I will end misguided defense policies and stand with Caucus4Priorities in fighting special interests in Washington.

First, I'll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.[i.e. not win it]

Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.

I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.

I will not weaponize space.

I will slow our development of future combat systems.

And I will institute an independent "Defense Priorities Board" to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.

Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert, and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.

You know where I stand. I've fought for open, ethical and accountable government my entire public life. I don't switch positions or make promises that can't be kept. I don't posture on defense policy and I don't take money from federal lobbyists for powerful defense contractors. As president, my sole priority for defense spending will be protecting the American people. Thanks so much.

Article: Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs:

http://web.archive.org/web/20090412030633/http://missilethreat.com/archives/id.7086/detail.asp

"MissileThreat.com is a project of The Claremont Institute devoted to understanding and promoting the requirements for the strategic defense of the United States."
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From Investor's Business Daily, Jan 2012:

Obama To Betray Missile Defense Secrets To Moscow

Investor's Business Daily ^ | January 9, 2012 | IBD staff

Appeasement: From ObamaCare to recess appointments, honoring the Constitution has not been an administration hallmark. But when it comes to betraying secrets to mollify the Russians, it becomes a document the president hides behind.

It was bad enough that the 2012 defense authorization bill signed by President Obama set America on a downward spiral of military mediocrity.

He also issued a signing statement, something he once opposed, saying that language in the bill aimed at protecting top-secret technical data on the U.S. Standard Missile-3 - linchpin of our missile defense - might impinge on his constitutional foreign-policy authority.

Section 1227 of the defense law prohibits spending any funds that would be used to give Russian officials access to sensitive missile-defense technology as part of a cooperation agreement without first sending Congress a report identifying the specific secrets, how they'd be used and steps to protect the data from compromise.

The president is required to certify that any technology shared will not be passed on to third parties such as China, North Korea or Iran, that the Russians will not use transferred secrets to develop countermeasures and that the Russians are reciprocating in sharing missile-defense technology. ..."

"In his signing statement, Obama said he would treat these legal restrictions as 'non-binding' and that 'my administration will also interpret and implement section 1244 (sic) in a manner that does not interfere with the president's constitutional authority to conduct foreign affairs and avoids the undue disclosure of sensitive diplomatic communications.'

Betraying our secrets is easy for a president who betrayed allies Poland and the Czech Republic to placate Moscow.

Poland was to host ground-based interceptors such as those we've deployed in California and Alaska, with missile-tracking radar deployed in the Czech Republic.

Obama pulled the plug when Moscow objected. Never mind, he said, we have a better approach: a four-phase plan that calls for using three versions of the Navy's Standard SM-3 interceptor missile that forms the backbone of its Aegis missile-defense system.

The fourth phase consists of a missile still on the drawing board scheduled for deployment by 2020, a version of the SM-3 called the Block IIB. It would intercept hostile missiles in the "early intercept" phase before an enemy missile could release its warheads and decoys. The Russians want the SM-3's secrets, and Obama appears to be willing to turn them over.

The president wants to save the New Start Treaty, which the Russians have threatened to abandon if we try to fully implement President Reagan's dream of defeating a nuclear missile attack.

Russia has unilaterally asserted that any qualitative or quantitative improvement in U.S. missile defenses would be grounds for withdrawal from the treaty.

Read More At Investor's Business Daily:
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/010912-597158-obama-gives-russia-missile-defense-secrets.htm#ixzz3jXmMbVwY
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March 2012...

"Obama was talking with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev when neither of them realized that their conversation was being picked up by microphones. Here is what they said:

Obama: "On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved, but it's important for him to give me space."

Medvedev: "Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you ..."

Obama: "This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility."

Medvedev: "I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir."

"This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility." That statement tells us much about the president's mindset.

The specific mention of missile defense is worrisome enough. Mr. Obama has retreated from the missile defense plan that was negotiated with European allies during the George W. Bush administration.

Apparently, he is signaling Moscow that he intends to retreat further. The clear implication from the president's comments is that he cannot tell the American people before the election what he plans to do after the election.

In addition, there is the phrase "on all these issues," implying more is at stake than just missile defense."

Article: Obama plans double cross on missile defense
When it comes to keeping America safe, we shouldn't be too flexible:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/29/obama-plans-double-cross-on-missile-defense/print/
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28 posted on 12/24/2016 6:01:07 AM PST by ETL (On the road to America's recovery!)
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To: Nextrush

The cold war never ends


29 posted on 12/24/2016 6:18:23 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: ETL

[Putin blasts Clinton & tells US to STOP criticising Russia or 'there will be CONSEQUENCES']

IN A SHOCKING video, Vladimir Putin has warned the US to stop stoking tensions with Russia or "there will be consequences".
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/724788/putin-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-america-russia-war-moscow-aggressive

That Putin?

How many billions have the cronies riding the Regime Change Investment Club's gravy train made by proding the dialectic ant pile over the last 55+ years?

Eisenhower's "Military-Industrial Complex" Speech

Origins and Significance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg-jvHynP9Y


Meanwhile, common sense says American idiological principals have more in common with Russian Orthodox Christianity than with the Wahabbi-infested theocratic cluster frack that's been engineered in OPEC by Clinton, Bush, Kissenger, Brzezinski, and the Associated enterprise that President Eisenhower tried to warn Americans about 55+ years ago.


$800,000.00 for a single round...

[The USS Zumwalt May Have Found Ammo It Can Actually Afford to Fire]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3506179/posts

...THAT's "Crazy".

Who Armed ISIS (so $800,000.00 rounds can get expended)?

https://www.google.com/#q=Who+Armed+ISIS

...THAT'S "Crazy".

 

Trump is gonna inject a little sanity back into the L.I.F.E.R. R.E.M.F. bureaucratic crony milk factory.  Normalizing relations with Russia is part of that.  Deal with it.

#TSTR-MAGA!

30 posted on 12/24/2016 6:24:03 AM PST by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: alexander_busek
Also, "two years?!" A measley two years?! Really?!

That's a strange notion people have, namely, that living for a short time in a foreign country qualifies them as experts on that country.

31 posted on 12/24/2016 6:28:43 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: ETL
Obama: "This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility."

I read that Obama is a Mohammedan. He is just plain anti-American. He is a red-diaper doper baby who grew up wallowing in the so-called wrongness of this country.

32 posted on 12/24/2016 6:44:52 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Enforce the Law. Build the Wall.)
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To: alexander_busek
>>They suffered under the Czars, and they suffered under the Communists.

Tzarist Oligarchy,
Communist Oligarchy,
Clinton Oligarchy...

 

[Day 61 - Where is (Clinton Foundation CEO) Eric Braverman?]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWl_6SOX4i4

33 posted on 12/24/2016 7:27:59 AM PST by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: HLPhat
Putin blasts Clinton & tells US to STOP criticizing Russia or 'there will be CONSEQUENCES'

As a KGB agent for 16+ years, and head of the diabolical FSB after that, Putin is a skilled master of deception. A professional BS artist. To automatically take every word he says as truthful is beyond naive. They (the Obama-Hillary camp) MAY, I repeat MAY, have had a genuine falling out in the past year or so with him, but the FACT is the O-H admin went out of their way to help strengthen Russia. That while they (the Obama admin) practically took apart OUR OWN military. Why on earth would Russia NOT want such a team to remain in power?

The Russians are on the move to basically bring back the Soviet Union. The last thing they want is a strong American military, like Trump-Pence has promised. Despite the smoke and mirrors BS bickering, they would OBVIOUSLY prefer a weak-on-defense, blame-America-first, team like we have in there now.

34 posted on 12/24/2016 7:41:45 AM PST by ETL (On the road to America's recovery!)
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To: ETL

Absolutely correct.


35 posted on 12/24/2016 7:43:06 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ETL

Actually, mother Russia is dying and the USSR is still unsustainable


36 posted on 12/24/2016 7:43:48 AM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Macroagression melts snowflakes)
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To: ETL
>>The Russians are on the move to basically bring back the Soviet Union.

Funny how predictably a bear moves when it gets poked with a stick ehh?

Meanwhile, the Clinton and Shrub crime families did NOTHING to improve relations with Russia when they had the opportunity to do so.

Obama, the Useful (straw) Idiot, will soon have a new address.

Trump is not Obama, or Clinton, or Bush -- That's why we hired him.

#TSTR-MAGA!

37 posted on 12/24/2016 7:52:43 AM PST by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Nextrush

An excellent article. Thank you for posting it.


38 posted on 12/24/2016 8:41:11 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Deplorable and loving it.)
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To: Nextrush

“Finally those Capitalist pigs will finally pay for their crimes, eh? Eh comrades? Eh?”


39 posted on 12/24/2016 8:43:17 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: ETL

Let’s put this in context. China is an aggressive, hegemonic power. Their military is growing rapidly —largely from technology stolen from the rest of the world — and their generals publish war plans with the U.S. openly. Their economy is faltering and their government is trying to move back to more central control. This will yield trouble.

Russia is a busted flush that is very much more bark than bite. The key assets of Russia are Putin’s mouth and an undeserved reputation for past power.


40 posted on 12/24/2016 8:54:10 AM PST by wjr123
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