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Even more evidence Obama birth certificate 'fake'
worldnetdaily.com ^ | 1/8/17 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 01/09/2017 2:36:31 PM PST by Nero Germanicus

An investigator who was commissioned by now-retired Sheriff Joe Arpaio to find out whether the document President Obama presented as his birth certificate is real says there’s now a 10th feature of the document that shows it’s fraudulent.

Investigator Mike Zullo, who joined with Arpaio in a Dec. 15 news conference disclosing nine other elements that experts concluded were copied to create Obama’s document, released a video to WND explaining the additional evidence.

It explains that two stamps on the Obama document not only were identical in angle to the stamps on another birth certificate – that of Johanna Ah’nee from the same time period – they also had the identical vertical relationship.

This despite the fact that the “stamps” purportedly were hand applied days apart.

“What are the odds that both the stamps in box 20 and the stamps in box 22 would have the exact same corresponding angles even though they were stamped 16 days apart?” the video asks.

That means they almost certainly were digitally copied from the Ah’nee certificate then dragged together and pasted onto Obama’s, the video explains.

Zullo explained that the fact the two stamps are an exact match vertically reveals that they were taken as a group.

“The fact that there is no vertical displacement indicates the exact vertical and horizontal alignment of the stamps are an exact copy from the Ah’nee certificate … reinforcing the claim that the Ah’nee [document] is without question a source document.”

It eliminates, too, he said, any chance that the date stamps were placed by hand on the Obama document.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; birthers; obamafamily
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To: rjsimmon

And negating every single thing he signed for the 8 years he pretended to be President.


41 posted on 01/09/2017 3:08:04 PM PST by Shady (We WON the Battle, Now let's WIN THE WAR!!!!)
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To: rjsimmon
I figure in 6 months he will PROUDLY AND IN YOUR FACE announce that he never was born in the USA
42 posted on 01/09/2017 3:08:42 PM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: gasport

Will all lgbtq,,, go back in the closet ?


43 posted on 01/09/2017 3:10:36 PM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Blue Highway

As by the Constitution he could not serve as President he is not protected by the covenant that protects the president.


44 posted on 01/09/2017 3:12:35 PM PST by Shady (We WON the Battle, Now let's WIN THE WAR!!!!)
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To: BenLurkin
They will say that, and, they will say that since the precedent has been set, that other non-US born citizens can run for President.

Sen. McCatskill who was on the 6 member SR511 committee with the Kenyan and Hellary that vetted McLame was long before 2008 a proponent of striking NBC from the POTUS requirements. That's why she was on the committee.

45 posted on 01/09/2017 3:13:08 PM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: rjsimmon
There is no prohibition on Americans for Secretary General of the United Nations in the UN charter.

-PJ

46 posted on 01/09/2017 3:18:06 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Nero Germanicus

It does not matter if he was born in Hawaii if his father was a foreign national.
Children of foreign nationals inherit the nationality of their foreign national parent(s).
Natural born citizen means born here of citizen parents.
No other possible citizenship(s).
Only when one cannot be anything else can one be a natural born citizen.

No foreign birth.
No foreign parent(s)
No foreign citizenship(s)
No foreign influence on the Presidency is what John Jay stated in a letter to George Washington as the reason for insisting on a natural born citizen.

Obama told us he was born a British subject.

Who believes Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jay, Monroe, Madison, etc. would have found him to be a natural born citizen?


47 posted on 01/09/2017 3:21:08 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents)
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To: Nero Germanicus

The rest of the world is laughing at America. Laughing.

Laughing at how the Great Republic has been played for fools by such a mediocrity


48 posted on 01/09/2017 3:21:44 PM PST by WashingtonFire
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To: Political Junkie Too
There is no prohibition on Americans for Secretary General of the United Nations in the UN charter.

The appointee may not be a citizen of any of the Security Council's five permanent members.

49 posted on 01/09/2017 3:22:27 PM PST by C210N
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To: Shady

His secret service protection gets yanked immediately. He’s sued by the government to pay restitution so all his assets are seized and all his accounts frozen.

Bathhouse Barry and family are destitute and he’s facing a laundry list of prosecutable offenses.

Let this come to pass.


50 posted on 01/09/2017 3:29:26 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( Watching the leftists feeling their sadz makes me LOL ))))
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To: DiogenesLamp

Since day one my primary points of view have been procedural:
1) Forgery and document tampering are crimes, you don’t attempt redress of alleged crimes via civil lawsuits. There are no issues of standing in a criminal court.
2) Anyone who has evidence of a crime should present their evidence to a prosecuting attorney to see if that person will convene a grand jury investigation. No U.S. Attorney, state’s Attorney General or District Attorney has ever been presented with purported evidence of criminal activity.
3) Hawaii Revised Statute 338-18 allows an original birth certificate to be inspected via a court order and a congressional subpoena issued by the Chair of an investigative committee of Congress has the force of law of a judge’s court order. Congress could have and should have inspected the original document, not a PDF digital image of the original document.


51 posted on 01/09/2017 3:29:26 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: VitacoreVision

Unfortunately, Barak plans to continue trying to destroy America. I would continue to beat this horse. It can’t hurt.


52 posted on 01/09/2017 3:30:43 PM PST by altura
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To: LucyT

My current nominee for the ignoble position of birth father is Mohammed Subud.


53 posted on 01/09/2017 3:32:16 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: samtheman

You don’t need college records, evidence of foreign student status would be available under a Freedom of Information Act request for foreign student visas. You can’t go to school in the U.S. without an approved “I-20” foreign student visa application.
Obama’s father’s student visa records were released via the Freedom of Information Act.


54 posted on 01/09/2017 3:33:52 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: C210N
You cite a wikipedia story sourcing from a PBS article. It is nowhere in the UN charter.

The UN Charter on eligibility: Chapter 3 Articles 7 and 8 say:

Article 7

There are established as the principal organs of the United Nations:

Such subsidiary organs as may be found necessary may be established in accordance with the present Charter.

Article 8

The United Nations shall place no restrictions on the eligibility of men and women to participate in any capacity and under conditions of equality in its principal and subsidiary organs.

Chapter V on the Security Council has no language matching the Wikipedia article.

-PJ

55 posted on 01/09/2017 3:35:43 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Red Badger

And that’s why it’s so important!!!! For those who are too blind to look past the racist angle that’s thrown up every time you try to discredit this man’s actions, it would be very important proving that he is not an American or at least that his birth certificate is false whatever those implications are. He can be then seen as the complete fraud that he is and always was. So history may record and we can give him the just criticism for the policies that he used to destroy America without having people calling us raaaacist!

It helps to prove the argument that he hates America and that he was always about destroying it.


56 posted on 01/09/2017 3:38:37 PM PST by Just a little eagle
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To: 353FMG

No and I’m more concerned about the taxpayers of America having to pay $203,700 a year in presidential pension plus even more money for his transition to civilian life expenses, plus $150,000 a year for staff and office for the first 30 months and $96,000 a year for the rest of his life thereafter, plus free medical insurance, plus lifetime Secret Service protection.
On top of all that Fortune Magazine is estimating Obama will get $15 million in an advance for the publishing rights to his presidential memoir.


57 posted on 01/09/2017 3:40:31 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: IC Ken
Exactly. What if the marxists had continued the long slow march, rather than go for the brass ring with Obama?

The frog would have never noticed the water temperature. First Obama, then PIAPS explicitly stating exactly what they were going to do.

Americans would never have voted for Trump if they weren't scared. Bush III would have been perfectly acceptable if they hadn't been alarmed.

Yet tyrants always seem to be impatient. What if Hitler had waited an extra year - would his airforce have been strong enough to defeat Britain?

But we'll never know, just like we might never know what it was like to live through the (final) destruction of the USA, with its borders ripped open, and muzzie terrorists openly killing scores of citizens each week.

58 posted on 01/09/2017 3:41:06 PM PST by semantic
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To: All

On the “birth certificate”, it has the mother’s race as “Caucasian”...

It has the father’s race as “African”...

There is no race known as African...

In 1961, the father’s race would have been listed as “Negroid”...

False certificate....


59 posted on 01/09/2017 3:44:04 PM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Nero Germanicus
Since day one my primary points of view have been procedural:

Well, see, here is where we differ. I see the notion of putting process above truth as a "foolish consistency which is a hobgoblin of little minds". If a process yields incorrect results, the process should be dispensed with.

1) Forgery and document tampering are crimes, you don’t attempt redress of alleged crimes via civil lawsuits. There are no issues of standing in a criminal court.

Except when a State does it regarding birth certificates. I have tried and tried and tried to get people to understand that a state can forge a birth certificate and it is not a crime. You and others simply ignore the point. No one ever grasps the point to the extent that it deserves.

Obama has a state produced fake birth certificate. It is not a "forgery" in the normal understanding of the term, it is a legal fake.

I have been consistent in pointing out that the United States should not allow for this sort of dodge when it affects an office as important as the presidency, and that implicit in the requirement that the president be a natural citizen is the authority to require REAL and ACTUAL proof of eligibility.

In my opinion, Constitutional law trumps all state laws that could possibly interfere with confirmation.

Your position is that "procedure" and State law should be allowed to interfere with Constitutional requirements, and in my mind this is just wrong and incorrect.

Every state law should burn and whither like grass if it stands as an obstacle to constitutional law. We have put the cart before the horse with this horses' ass Obama, and the world will pay the consequences of it.

60 posted on 01/09/2017 3:45:35 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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