[awelliott]

which, of course, were not recognized by the entity to which they were constitutional signatories in the first place...

And there you have the perfect example of a tyrannical federal government. Pretty much from that point forward, the government has increasingly restricted freedom of the states and of individuals in its never-ending quest for more power and control.

[IrishBrigade]

And there you have the perfect example of a tyrannical federal government.

of course, of course...those same tyrants which forced those poor, put upon troops which surrounded the entrance to Charleston to fire on hugely outgunned Fort Sumter...much like ‘tyrannical victimization’ forced Imperial Japan to attack Pearl Harbor...

your great grandfathers sowed the wind, and reaped the whirlwind...