Posted on 01/27/2017 7:03:27 PM PST by AndyJackson
If there’s one thing we can say about Donald Trump, it’s that he’s unlike any other world leader we’ve seen to date. The problem, however, is that his differences fail to set him apart in a positive manner.
Almost daily, Trump tweets about the “biased media,” “fake news,” or a world leader who has suddenly done something so terrible that he must take to Twitter to publicly berate them. Notice, however, that it’s always someone else with the problem. It’s never him.
However, John D. Gartner, a registered psychotherapist from the renowned Johns Hopkins University Medical School seems to think Trump may, in fact, be the one with the problem. Gartner, who teaches psychiatric residents at Hopkins, decided to break the ethical code known as the “Goldwater Rule” in order to warn the American public about the dangerousness of our new commander-in-chief’s mental state.
The “Goldwater Rule” is defined as “the informal term for part of the ethics code of the American Psychiatric Association saying it is wrong to provide a professional opinion of a public figure without examining that person and gaining consent to discuss the evaluation.”
Trump’s Democratic challenger, Hillary Clinton called it first. She said Trump is “temperamentally unfit” to serve as president, following his numerous sexist remarks about women, mocking of a disabled reporter, and blatantly racist statements about basically every single human being who isn’t white.
Gartner, who is also the author of In Search of Bill Clinton: A Psychological Biography, says “Donald Trump is dangerously mentally ill and temperamentally incapable of being president.”
According to USNews, Gartner unofficially diagnosed Trump with “malignant narcissism.” Although he himself has not personally examined Trump, Gartner claims it’s obvious from watching even a little of his behavior that he meets the diagnostic criteria for the disorder. Some of the characteristics include:
Gartner says that individuals with malignant narcissism often lack impulse control and empathy. He also says many who suffer from this disorder believe that others around them don’t recognize their greatness.
‘We’ve seen enough public behavior by Donald Trump now that we can make this diagnosis indisputably,’ Gartner claims.
As Psychology Today notes, “Malignant Narcissists will go to great lengths to achieve their aim. They can be intelligent, high functioning (hold an important job for example) soft-spoken, charming, tearful/seemingly emotional, gracious, well-mannered, kind and have the ability to form relationships. They may lie, falsely accuse, dramatize, smear, cheat, steal, manipulate, accuse, blame or twist to get what they want and feel justified in doing so. Because they are entitled, egocentric and desperate, they do not experience it as wrong.”
Malignant narcissists are:
‘Determined to gratify their wishes and furious if thwarted. Their desire can be so consuming that there is little comprehension of, respect for or ability to empathize with the other. They lack guilt or remorse and tend to feel or pronounce that it is they who have been mistreated. They can be of any gender, race or social class.’
As if that weren’t enough, malignant narcissism is incurable.
So there you have it. The leader of the United States of America is more than likely a malignant narcissist who has the fate of the free world in his two tiny hands. Not to mention, he now has access to the United States government’s nuclear codes. If that’s not terrifying, we don’t know what is.
I guess it takes one to know one. Show me a psychotherapist and I’ll show you someone with more issues than all the newsstands in Grand Central, Times Sq, LFK, O’Hare, Heathrow and LAX combined. The dirty little secret, many, either those pursuing psych majors or already in the field are there to try and figure out why they themselves are so screwed up in the head.
Some say that Gartner is a #SpiritCooking satanic cultist who is putting this out to divert attention from the pedophile rings in the Democrat Party.
Gartner should take a long look in a mirror. We tend to dislike in others what we most dislike in ourselves.
I have studied the same subjects as Gartner, have a degree in psychology before I focused on neuroscience research, and am married to a psychiatrist... an MD not a PhD.
Gartner is a prime example of someone who makes an emotional decision and then searches for/ or creates the facts to support the decision they have already made, rather than looking at the facts and them making a decision based upon those facts.
I have read the unauthorized biography on Trump to get into his head and understand him. Trump is a very unique individual who chooses to present himself as a paradox in order to maintain un-predictability of his future behavior. This is necessary in strategic deal making.
I don’t agree with Trump on many issues, and I still don’t trust him 100%. But so far, he has exceeded my expectations and his actions are in line with his campaign promises, something seldom found in a politician.
He missed “Winning”.
There must be a HIPAA violation by Gartner.
In addition, there seems to be little legal barrier when you, as a psychologist, comment on celebrities, based on information freely available online.
However, our APA Ethics Code requires that you adhere to certain professional standards and guidelines: www.apa.org/ethics/code/index.aspx
These include Sections 5.04 and 2.04, which require that your statements are based on scientific knowledge and your own expertise and are consistent with other aspects of the Ethics Code – especially Sections 9.01b and General Principle A, which say that you should not offer a professional opinion about someone whom you have not examined and should not make any statement that might undermine the welfare of the person in question.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/psychiatrists-cant-tell-us-what-they-think-about-trump/
Back in November, Vanity Fair got five psychiatrists and psychologists to weigh in on Trump’s mental health. But while Clinton is free to imply anything she wants about her opponent’s sanity, the experts in sanity (or lack thereof) are supposed to keep mum. Both psychiatrists and psychologists operate under ethical rules that prevent them from offering professional diagnostic opinions about the mental health of public figures they have not personally examined. The American Psychiatric Association’s version of this is known as the Goldwater Rule — named for another polarizing Republican presidential candidate.
The rule has its roots in the September/October 1964 issue of a magazine called Fact, which was entirely devoted to parsing the results of a survey the editors had sent to more than 12,000 psychiatrists. The survey only had one question: “Do you believe Barry Goldwater is psychologically fit to serve as president of the United States?”
Most of the psychiatrists — 9,939 of them, to be exact — didn’t respond. Of those who did, 571 said they didn’t know enough about Goldwater to answer, and another 657 declared him fit as a fiddle. But 1,189 psychiatrists said “no,” and many of them added colorful commentary that the magazine reprinted under a headline (“FACT: 1,189 Psychiatrists Say Goldwater is Psychologically Unfit to Be President!”) that conveniently left out the fact that they didn’t represent a majority opinion. The Republican presidential candidate was called “paranoid” and “a dangerous lunatic.” One respondent suggested that Goldwater had “a stronger identification to his mother than to his father” — fighting words in 1964 America, apparently.
In the aftermath, Goldwater sued Fact (and won), Fact went defunct, and the American Psychiatric Association tried to make sure that none of this would ever happen again. The result was Section 7.3 of the APA’s Principles of Medical Ethics:
On occasion psychiatrists are asked for an opinion about an individual who is in the light of public attention or who has disclosed information about himself/herself through public media. In such circumstances, a psychiatrist may share with the public his or her expertise about psychiatric issues in general. However, it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement.
Or, as Ezra Griffith, professor emeritus of psychiatry at Yale and a member of the APA’s Ethics Committee, put it: “If you’re going to talk to the press and spread stuff on your opinions, it’s important to at least say very clearly, ‘I have not examined this individual and therefore much of what I’m saying is sort of mystical black magic.’ ”
The Goldwater Rule is the reason psychiatrists who comment in celebrity gossip magazines always first clarify that they have not treated Joaquin Phoenix, Lisa Marie Presley, Britney Spears, etc. It’s also why The Atlantic’s June cover story — a long personality analysis of Donald Trump written by Northwestern University psychologist Dan McAdams — was very careful to stay far away from the realm of medical diagnosis.
Sorry. Forgot to post the title of the source article:
Psychiatrists Can’t Tell Us What They Think About Trump
Because 1,189 told us what they thought about Goldwater.
This tactic didn’t work during the election cycle. Not only is this shrink incorrect in his differential diagnosis, he’s unprofessional, thus untrustworthy. Unfortunately, this kind of mudslinging by academics is occurring in every university dept. in every campus in our country. See my tagline. The trouble with academics proslytizing to students is that the students are forced to keep their mouths shut if they disagree. The professors hold the get out of jail keys. I speak from experience.
Just another fool who is buffaloed by The Donald
Trying to rationalize his Trumpophobia.
Pure bull sh*t.
Unadulterated.
"As Psychology Today notes, “Malignant Narcissists will go to great lengths to achieve their aim."
They can be intelligent, high functioning (hold an important job for example) soft-spoken, charming, tearful/seemingly emotional, gracious, well-mannered, kind and have the ability to form relationships.
They may lie, falsely accuse, dramatize, smear, cheat, steal, manipulate, accuse, blame or twist to get what they want and feel justified in doing so. Because they are entitled, egocentric and desperate, they do not experience it as wrong.”
Malignant narcissists are:
‘Determined to gratify their wishes and furious if thwarted.
Their desire can be so consuming that there is little comprehension of, respect for or ability to empathize with the other.
They lack guilt or remorse and tend to feel or pronounce that it is they who have been mistreated.
They can be of any gender, race or social class.’
As if that weren’t enough, malignant narcissism is incurable.
If the good doctor Dr. John D. Gartner's diagnosis and the diagnosis of a non professional, ( Hillary Clinton ) who he seems to place a good deal of value in is correct, this unstable condition seems to be highly contagious and spreading at an alarming rate.
As my proof I say all he/we have to do is apply his same diagnosis to the very actions that he has just taken in print and apply them to himself and that of his consultant, Hillary Clinton, and my gosh! with this post myself!
You'll forgive me Doc if I need medical help, I'll seek it from another more stable source than a Dr. who diagnosis over Street TV and consults with politicians that turn so violent to her help that she has to be restrained when she loses.
What was that field of medicine you teach again ?
Someone needs to consult their DSM V.
Anyone can put up a Wiki page, as long as you get through their cursory vetting process.
Obama is actually a perfect fit for malignant narcissism. I say that as some one with an MS in psych and ten years of clinical experience before I changed careers.
Meh:
Have him show up on ‘Tucker Carlson Tonight’ and let Tucker tear him a new Poop Chute.
Psychotherapist - heal thyself. You be one crazy nut bag....
I never thought I’d witness such a thing as this. I was always taught, every ‘snowflake’ was unique. Turns out, they are all identical. Ain’t they special?<<< apparently, NOT!
I think he’s actually describing my husband’s ex-wife.
May I compare the former president’s analysis with President Trump’s? What? You didn’t do one?
“registered psychotherapist “
Registered usually means unlicensed.
A LICENSED psychotherapist is one with the required degrees, residency, and license. Anyone can register under State law to perform psychotherapy.
If this pinhead was legit he would know it is unethical to diagnose without having actually met the patient and performed the proper diagnostics.
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