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The coming clash with Iran.
Creators.com ^ | February 4, 2017 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 02/04/2017 11:26:44 AM PST by ex-snook

Edited on 02/04/2017 11:39:25 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

When Gen. Michael Flynn marched into the White House Briefing Room to declare that "we are officially putting Iran on notice," he drew a red line for President Trump. In tweeting the threat, Trump agreed.

His credibility is now on the line.

And what triggered this virtual ultimatum?


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Another Bush again? Trump has his share of war 'Cheney's' surrounding him. Woe is us. Have we elected another one?
1 posted on 02/04/2017 11:26:44 AM PST by ex-snook
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To: ex-snook

Trump isn’t McCain or Bush so I won’t worry too much about it just yet.


2 posted on 02/04/2017 11:31:03 AM PST by boycott
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To: ex-snook

Is there a link for this so we can see the original? Thanks.


3 posted on 02/04/2017 11:39:00 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: ex-snook

Oops, never mind!


4 posted on 02/04/2017 11:39:46 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;q=quick;s=coming%20clash


5 posted on 02/04/2017 11:41:21 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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To: ex-snook

Trump hates the thought of war - but he has the balls to go for the win if someone attacks us. Just ignoring them is not an option as long as they collude with N.K. and send so many terrorists out into the world.


6 posted on 02/04/2017 11:45:51 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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"Trump isn’t McCain or Bush so I won’t worry too much about it just yet."

I think Trump's idea here would be: 1) make certain they understand we mean business and that alone will take care of half the problem.
2) If it ever does come to force, make certain you do them more damage than they can do you -- no quagmires!

I think that's the formula for winning, but time will tell...

7 posted on 02/04/2017 11:51:07 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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The problem with Iran/Muslims is they don’t adhere to Mutially Assured Destruction. MAD is not a deterrent to them as it is to countries such as Russia.


8 posted on 02/04/2017 11:54:34 AM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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So long as Iran can't lob a nuke our way* they are in for shock (and maybe some awe) if they engage in a "conventional war with the US. Even an Obumble-weakened US military can pulverize Iran.

*I'm not saying we couldn't win a nuclear war with Iran. What I am saying is that we'd rather avoid an exchange of nukes.

9 posted on 02/04/2017 11:58:17 AM PST by luvbach1 (I hope Trump runs roughshod over the inevitable obstuctionists, Dems, progs, libs, or RINOs!)
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To: Menehune56

we have been kicking this can down the block sense 1979 and Jimmy Carter—It never gets better. Looks like we may have to take on the Mad Mullahs and put the Shahs son back on the peacock thrown. End their miss rule with the sword of war—Real War—Declared War—Put America on a war footing. With War Powers Trump can enact his changes swiftly and end all dissent with police action—shut down “Anti-American Press” Haul out the garbage on National TV. I don’t think Trump would do this—nor-abuse his powers like a democrat might.


10 posted on 02/04/2017 11:59:59 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: ex-snook

Who believes that Iran had any intention of honoring that “agreement”? Not even Obama I suspect.


11 posted on 02/04/2017 12:03:40 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them.)
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The original sin was going into Iraq and not Iran. Now Iraq is a vassal state of Iran and Iran is immensely more powerful and flush with our money. Looking back, George Bush was an unmitigated disaster for going into Iraq and attempting to nation build. Absolute disaster...


12 posted on 02/04/2017 12:21:24 PM PST by steel_resolve (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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Hopefully, DJT knows that he is not dealing with rational people, but a bunch of madmen who are still fighting the crusades.


13 posted on 02/04/2017 12:23:27 PM PST by huckfillary
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The coming clash with Iran.

We should have smashed the Islamocracy back in 1979, and every year since then. It is because of that Idiot Jimmy Carter that the world will be drenched in blood before those religious kooks are brought to heel.

The most insane thing in history is to allow Ayatollahs to get their hands on Nuke ICBMs.

Hitler in the Sudetenland was a crucial point in history at which much bloodshed could have been prevented. This is Hitler in the Sudetenland times 1000.

14 posted on 02/04/2017 12:27:05 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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The problem with Iran/Muslims is they don’t adhere to Mutially Assured Destruction. MAD is not a deterrent to them as it is to countries such as Russia.

And this is why virtually the entire F***ing government is a collection of idiots on this issue. They do not grasp that some people will not be deterred by retaliatory destruction.

The Iranian leadership believes that if they set the world on fire, the Mahdi will return, and Islam will rule earth for all eternity.

Dying in the cause of Allah is their PREFERENCE!

15 posted on 02/04/2017 12:32:19 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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I hope DJT understands the situation. I know Secretary of Defense Mattis understands. A preemptive strike on their nuclear weapons is probably the only solution.


16 posted on 02/04/2017 12:58:42 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I’ll add that you are exactly right. All the talk of them being afraid of Trump is silly. They are afraid of no one because deterrent means nothing to them.


17 posted on 02/04/2017 1:02:07 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: huckfillary

Hopefully, DJT knows that he is not dealing with rational people, but a bunch of madmen who are still fighting the crusades.


Sec. Mattis will educate him. Mattis knows their mindset very well.


18 posted on 02/04/2017 1:03:42 PM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: ex-snook

Speak softly. Carry a big stick.

Better not telegraph your red lines. Better keep them worried.


19 posted on 02/04/2017 1:04:36 PM PST by spintreebob
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Yup. Overwhelming force is the only way to put an end to this. For years, we’ve merely engaged in mental masturbation with these cretins. We need another General Curtis LeMay running the business of war.


20 posted on 02/04/2017 1:07:26 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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