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Big trouble!' Homeland Security suspends enforcement of travel ban.....
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 17:19 EST, 4 February 2017 | By Emily Crane and Cheyenne Roundtree For Dailymail.com and Reuters

Posted on 02/04/2017 2:44:26 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: proust

DJT can get the ridiculous order overturned on a weekend, all he has to do is explain it is a matter of national defense and the courthouse door opens

but aside from even that,
DJT could instruct the army or national guard to defend our borders ...

and NO judge or governor has ANY authority to stop THAT!
There are many things the communists and SorozIslamoNazis can do to impede the new administration, but border defense is the very LAST area they have any say in. the very LAST. It is SO AMAZING they chose to challenge our national defense at our borders.................as their first big attempt at undermining our new administration. This is (constitutionally, legally, and yes even politically speaking, SUPER_SIZED_STUPID of them!)

GO TRUMP!


41 posted on 02/04/2017 4:04:22 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: moehoward; NormsRevenge; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; ..
So the ninth circuit can't have their weekend schedule disturbed....

Now that is OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!

42 posted on 02/04/2017 4:05:15 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Climate Change no longer mentioned on the White House website)
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To: faithhopecharity
NO!

He needs to make his moves very carefully!

43 posted on 02/04/2017 4:07:58 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Climate Change no longer mentioned on the White House website)
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To: digger48
I know about the cases, I'm asking about the simple approach of having a judge issue an injunction that stands until the case is heard.

How long, for example, was it from when someone brought a case and Obama lost in court? However long it was, it served the Obama goals during the time between when it was issued and when it was ruled as not legal.

44 posted on 02/04/2017 4:13:51 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rashputin; NormsRevenge; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; ..
Yes....the Acting Attorney General in Washington should be going to Justice Kennedy and asking for either a stay or an immediate hearing by the 9th circuit....

Get them off of the A@@ and do their JOB!

45 posted on 02/04/2017 4:18:43 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Climate Change no longer mentioned on the White House website)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

yes we agree that he needs to move carefully.

I am still pointing out that he does have pretty much the final say when it comes to defending our borders and deciding who is safe to let in and who is not.

Presidential powers include the command over the armed forces and the militias of the various states when he, and he alone, decides to call them into action. IF he finds it necessary, he can simply use these powers to defend our borders (which is what these powers are designed for)....
he could, for instance, place a US Army or National Guard person in charge of each customs office, for starters.
Am I recommending this? No. But he can do it in ten minutes if he finds it is necessary ... so I am not worried about some judge’s (patently unconstitutional and statutorily illegal) ruling. Exactly how to proceed is up to DJT, but he does have the high cards when it comes to defending our national borders.


46 posted on 02/04/2017 4:21:05 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: Jim Robinson; NormsRevenge; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; SunkenCiv; ...
Oh.....this is juicy....

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Bezos supported the lawsuit against the government that was filed in Washington, the same state as Amazon's headquarters.

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We need to boycot AMAZON!!!!

47 posted on 02/04/2017 4:27:04 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Climate Change no longer mentioned on the White House website)
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To: Archon of the East

Trump should issue a new exec order including everone until the matter is resolved. There needs to be a law that prevents any judge less than scous taking action on a presidental order.


48 posted on 02/04/2017 4:27:12 PM PST by TonyM
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To: usmom

“Well apparently DHS thinks the judge is their boss and not Trump, and so are following him. What is going on?”

If that’s the case, then Trump needs to remind the bureaucrats that he’s their boss and to follow his orders or be fired for insubordination.


49 posted on 02/04/2017 4:27:52 PM PST by sergeantdave (Cats are like potato chips - you can't have just one.)
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To: TonyM

“There needs to be a law that prevents any judge less than scous taking action on a presidental order.”

There is a law in the Constitution that states that only Congress may write law. It can’t be any more clear.


50 posted on 02/04/2017 4:31:14 PM PST by sergeantdave (Cats are like potato chips - you can't have just one.)
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To: TonyM

My thoughts also. Just ban all immigration for an indefinite amount of time. Can’t argue that anyone is singled out, can’t argue about the length of the ban.


51 posted on 02/04/2017 4:31:31 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: faithhopecharity; NormsRevenge; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; SunkenCiv; ...
He needs to stay away from any move that the lefties can say...he is Hitler by imposing anything like martial law...or could possibly lie that!!!

LET the lefties get the people upset with letting possible terrorists in!

This is turning into a real CHESS MATCH!!!

52 posted on 02/04/2017 4:41:11 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Climate Change no longer mentioned on the White House website)
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To: sergeantdave
NO!

The Courts can check the Execution of the presidents EO's....

He needs to get the order overturned by the Higher Courts!

53 posted on 02/04/2017 4:45:18 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Climate Change no longer mentioned on the White House website)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There is no travel ban only travel restrictions.

It’s like calling it a ban on driving because we have speed limits and other laws of the road confused media still in the dark.


54 posted on 02/04/2017 4:45:19 PM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: faithhopecharity
Hope the President manages to get some R and R this weekend.

We need him for the next eight years.

55 posted on 02/04/2017 4:51:33 PM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

chess match, perhaps

but when it comes to protecting our country and its borders,
the president (whomever is in the Oral Office) has the last word

just saying it was very very poor judgement for the Democraps to try challenging a sitting president on defending the very borders (and communities) of our country...when the president has, essentially, almost plenary power over matters of national defense. Even war (despite Congress’ advise and consent clause). Recalling when someone wanted to challenge President Bush2’s launching a war against Iraq (the challenge having come before Congress approved of the action), the S. court dismissed the challenge because it posed a nonjusticiable political question and “.....there are no judicially discoverable standards that would permit a court to determine whether the intentions of the President in prosecuting a war are proper.” (OConnor v. United States, 2003).

If the D’s want to (mis-)use the courts to challenge or undermine a sitting president, they have plenty of ways they can do it...where the courts have a wole lot more jurisdiction. Just saying that. If DJT decides to proceed ‘carefully” then FINE...but he does not have to if he determines (and he Obviously can do it) that the national defense requires a clear and decisive action to defend our borders. He has the high cards in any game between the presidency and the courts when it comes to borders and defense decisions.


56 posted on 02/04/2017 4:54:13 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: Churchillspirit

yes, it appears that the SorozNasi/DNC/CAIR/MoslemBrotheroood “game” against DJT is to give him a quick heart attack, alas! But I do think he’s smart enough to realize that and.. he will take good care of himself...


57 posted on 02/04/2017 4:55:20 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: faithhopecharity
Yes he should win in the Supreme Court....

The bigger Chess Match is with the yet unconvinced Public!

58 posted on 02/04/2017 5:07:01 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Climate Change no longer mentioned on the White House website)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

the public is mostly quite much convinced

what we are seeing is SOME public questioning AND a lot of Soroznazi agitator political hacks and so forth, making noise in their controlled mass media

which is to say, we are in deep doo doo as THAT bs conspiracy has to be cleaned up TOO (and doing ANYTHING to the press is difficult given the First Amendment)


59 posted on 02/04/2017 5:09:24 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: onyx

I learned long ago, never trust anyone who wears
a bow tie.


60 posted on 02/04/2017 5:11:06 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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