Posted on 02/05/2017 1:37:59 AM PST by TigerClaws
“Machines, robots will create Hell on Earth”
Ironically, the device you typed or spoke the above text with is a machine or what could be considered a robot.
Advances in technology should never stop or be limited.
The difference between humans building robots and past waves of tech prove my point. To be a human engineer designing robots you probably need an IQ of at least 115 - that means ~85% of the population couldn't do that job even if they wanted it. Meanwhile - people with an IQ of 85 could make a decent pay on a manufacturing assembly line 40 years ago.
No.
You use robots to help you in your 22nd century private sector job. Kinda like farmers using machines in their 20th century jobs. Which resulted in hordes of clod hoppers losing their jobs and having to go find work in the cities, as many fewer farmers produced the produce of many more.
If you are resourceful, you likely own multiple robots and coordinate their labor with your clients or customers.
If you are exceptional, you invent new robots or find new ways to apply existing robots. You go public. You franchise your robot intellectual property. You become part of the one percent.
As for the government, only those who pay in more than they take out should be allowed to vote.
I use to be a telephone operator, there were hundreds working at any given time....that job has been long gone.
What if the robots decide they aren’t getting a fair deal on taxes ;) and refuse to pay.
At almost any point in time since the industrial Revolution, a person could say, “40 years ago certain people could survive and succeed in the economy and now they could not.” However, while it may be painful for some, the market always corrects and there are net gains.
And yes, things have changed. Forty years ago there were working class neighborhoods with high rates of home ownership and now not many such communities exist.
I grew up in what was a working class neighborhood. My neighbors owned their home, had five kids, all in Catholic School and the father delivered newspapers and the mother was a checker at a grocery store.
That would be impossible today.
Just give everyone $15/hr/problem solved.
Once robots and automation started eliminated massive numbers of jobs that you need a full standard deviation above the norm from to be employed today, people like you and I will feel some pain - fortunately for us that's probably long after we're done working. But in the meantime, wage pressure for the bottom 50% is likely occur massively over the next 30 years and moderately for the next 25%. A UBI is the only real solution to the problem long term - but it is a long term problem that can be addressed later. Halting/reversing illegal immigration and adding a border tax would probably delay by 10, 15 years this impact in the US.
The only problem in your analysis is that advancing technology requires a more educated workforce and in the US our schools are failing us.
Advances in technology have never caused net job losses.
No, but standards of living have gone up while the average number of hours worked has decreased.
Maybe we will get the 30 hour week? How about a 3.5 day work week, with two shifts of workers in a week to give seven day coverage?
Well at least those liberals got their $15 minimum wage.../s
Serves 'em right...
This is different.
I'm guessing "robot repair tech" will be a job in high demand pretty soon. Unless they invent robots that wil do that too or self-repairing robots.
So what are 900 million Chinese going to do everyday if their factories are run by robots?
Xi Jinping's problem. No ours.
Our goal should be to build even better robots, export them to the Chinese, and make it a billion Chinese out of work!
They forgot one important job loss.
The union BOSS!
Maybe people could just NOT buy the stuff made by robots?
Robots will do the jobs that Americans won’t do.
There will be two levels in society. Upper Class and Poverty Class. Note I did not say Lower, I said poverty class. We’re seeing that shift now, but what Americans in particular are not ‘seeing’ is how the immigration issue rolls right into this challenge.
Let’s look at those “jobs Americans won’t do” for a minute. Remember when that was what we were told? Welfare recipients won’t do what jobs? Landscape, construction, vocational type jobs...so who is doing those jobs? Those jobs are not going to go away. We talk about immigrants taking jobs away, but who is willing to do those jobs? Yes, it is a bit of a circular argument isn’t it?
And if this is the future of factory jobs, what does it do to President Trump’s agenda to bring back good paying factory jobs to America? Perhaps this is a good example of why we should charge a 30% tariff on imports? Something needs to go the a UBI.
Will this technology give way or lead the way to full blown socialism? Those of lower IQ won’t have work?
Education, training, retraining....for what jobs? We see even service jobs falling to the robot/automated economy. It is a troubling prospect indeed. We have always leaped forward...we just don’t quite know where that leap is going this time.
I’ve been programming and maintaining industrial “robots” since 1988 and am very good at it. When robots rule the world, people like me will rule the robots. Bwah-hahahaha.
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