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‘We’re doing everything we can,’ Jerry Brown says of dam emergency
Sacramento Bee ^ | Feb 13 2017 | Sacramento Bee

Posted on 02/13/2017 7:30:57 PM PST by WilliamIII

California Gov. Jerry Brown, appealing to the Trump administration for direct federal assistance on the Oroville Dam’s emergency spillway, said Monday that he remains encouraged that the state and federal government can work constructively.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: brown; california; dam; governor; jerrybrown; lakeoroville; oroville; orovilledam; spillway
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To: VTenigma

“California has bonded billions in recent years for water projects. Most of those billions have been pissed away on studies and consultants.”

Let me guess...a majority of it spent on eco studies, green alternatives, LGBTQ construction resources, immigrant inclusion, lakeside recreation developments, and scads on travel expenses and meetings at five star hotels and resorts.


161 posted on 02/14/2017 6:36:20 AM PST by polymuser
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To: Steely Tom
California people are ever so much smarter than me. They're all geniuses. They've elected wall-to-wall Democrats to run their state, so this should be cleared up in an hour or two.

FWIW, the people living in the majority of California counties are conservatives. Unfortunately, our votes are overruled by the liberals living in two populous counties, Los Angeles and San Francisco.

It's for this reason there's a mass exodus of people and businesses from the state.

The situation is exactly why the Founding Fathers chose to use the electoral college in Presidential elections. Had they not put the EC into place, we'd all be bemoaning our Madame President instead of celebrating President Trump.

162 posted on 02/14/2017 7:08:10 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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To: maggief

“The word from the people working on it who are not allowed to talk publicly is there are seven monster cracks beneath the emergency spillway “

Maggief, ominous, tragic.


163 posted on 02/14/2017 9:36:03 AM PST by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: Rewrite all schoolbooks K-12!)
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To: Churchillspirit

What I hate the most is these FRetards diss CA and they forget FR is located here PLUS we DONATE THE MOST to the freepathon. and i also hate defending mexifornia!

While they’re digging snow out of their east coast hell hole, we take in sunshine, hot girls and beaches.


164 posted on 02/14/2017 10:17:44 AM PST by max americana (For the 9th time FIRED LIBERALS from our company at this election, and every election since 2008)
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To: Steely Tom
They've elected wall-to-wall Democrats...

Illegals are allowed to vote in local (non-federal) elections. There is voter fraud here. When the state pro tempura Senate leader admits that even his half of his family, as an example, are illegal and have illegal documents (SSN), then it is an easy step to project that there is wide spread voter fraud. With a SSN and a birth certificate in hand, that are easy to counterfeit, anyone applying for a driver's license, is automatically put on the voter rolls. During the primaries, the two with the highest votes are placed on the November ballot. Since that rule went into affect, we have only Democrats to choice from. Californians are living in a one Party state with little recourse to alter the political field.

165 posted on 02/14/2017 10:50:36 AM PST by UpInArms (without failure there's no success only slavery)
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To: poinq

We know the initial damage to the main spillway occurred where repair work was done previously. We also know the repaired area was not closely inspected in years subsequent. Much like a pothole, a very likely place to get a pothole is where an old pothole was repaired.

However, you are asserting grave operator error, the assertion being in a previous post that too much water was released down the main spillway, and the excess water overflowed the chute. This should be easy to prove: Records are kept of all such discharges.

A) What is (well, was) the maximum safe (ie., without overflowing the chute itself) discharge rate of the main spillway?

B) Was that rate exceeded before the disruption of flow became apparent?

It’s YOUR assertion...

MY best guesstimate is that the main spillway discharge rate (which is probably determined by a small group of engrs. and techs) was ok, but as the repaired area began to deteriorate, that flow was disrupted, which could have then caused overflow and then the accelerated failure you describe.

Keep in mind that at that point in the spillway, assuming something around 100,000 cfs flow, you have somewhere in the neighborhood of 1,000 - 2,000 megawatts of mechanical energy potential going by. It would not take much of a flow disruption to cause big trouble.


166 posted on 02/14/2017 11:20:57 AM PST by Paul R.
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To: kelly4c
Thank you for the clarification.

Apart from the urban; leftist hell holes, California is a beautiful state.

167 posted on 02/14/2017 12:12:38 PM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: polymuser

Nailed it!


168 posted on 02/14/2017 12:19:42 PM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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