Posted on 02/16/2017 8:04:13 AM PST by Kaslin
+1. JFK, Clintons, Obama, the politicians prefered by Hollywood.
Totally agree with you. I have never held with lionizing Kennedy. He was, at best, a mediocre president who:
1. Was unfaithful to his wife.
2. Defiled the White House with his infidelities.
3. Had no guilt about cheating to get elected.
4. Hid from the public the extent of his drug dependence.
5. Attempted to overthrow at least one foreign head of state.
6. Believed in nepotism in hiring little brother as AG
7. Sent men into battle without adequate safeguards.
All these and more convince me, as you, that Kennedy would have evolved eventually, like his brother Edward.
Records of the Kennedy national security meetings, both here and in our larger collection, show that none of JFK’s conversations about a coup in Saigon featured consideration of what might physically happen to Ngo Dinh Diem or Ngo Dinh Nhu. The audio record of the October 29th meeting which we cite below also reveals no discussion of this issue. That meeting, the last held at the White House to consider a coup before this actually took place, would have been the key moment for such a conversation. The conclusion of the Church Committee agrees that Washington gave no consideration to killing Diem. (Note 12) The weight of evidence therefore supports the view that President Kennedy did not conspire in the death of Diem. However, there is also the exceedingly strange transcript of Diem’s final phone conversation with Ambassador Lodge on the afternoon of the coup (Document 23), which carries the distinct impression that Diem is being abandoned by the U.S. Whether this represents Lodge’s contribution, or JFK’s wishes, is not apparent from the evidence available today.
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB101/
Oh yeah. I saw them in Boston at The Garden back in...'81 I think. Awesome show. Keith Emerson absolutely destroyed a Hammond (B3?) and turned it into kindling after doing "Hoedown".
Thanks for that information. I also thought of the Bay of Pigs fiasco and his willingness to open himself to extortion. President Kennedy was a politician, not a saint.
He’d think where’s the poontang and the swimming pool
Who cares what history’s most overrated potus thinks
Dude...the autopsy pics
Please...that was way way gross
You’re Brilliant but you’re dreamg
Yankee bootlegger patricians don’t do conservatism well
Kennedy looks better to me the older I get.
Dennis Prager always says there is a greater divide between leftists and liberals than between conservatives and liberals. And leftists now own the D party.
Americans want freedom and acceptance to live their own lives. They want general security, that police and government have their backs, but they don’t want a police state or a shadowy government supposedly fixing things. We can handle differences among people. But leftists need conflict. They need to divide people up by anything they can find. Skin color, Stars on bellies, whatever.
<3 heart for the Sage.
A few weeks after that moment, I remember reading a story that had a quote from Dave Powers, one of JFK's closest aides, who was at the time the director of the Kennedy library. Powers said that they had searched and searched through their files and could find no photo of Bentsen and JFK, or any direct knowledge that they were friends.
Bentsen did serve in the House in the early '50s when JFK was also a congressmen, and likely Bentsen did know him well enough to say hello, but they were hardly the friends he said they were.
Of course, this story did not get any national traction at all. And Quayle did put his foot in it by saying earlier that he was just as experienced as JFK, etc.
1. Was unfaithful to his wife.
2. Defiled the White House with his infidelities.
3. Had no guilt about cheating to get elected.
4. Hid from the public the extent of his drug dependence.
5. Attempted to overthrow at least one foreign head of state.
6. Believed in nepotism in hiring little brother as AG
7. Sent men into battle without adequate safeguards.
8. Did nothing to prevent--and in fact welcomed--the construction of the Berlin Wall
9. Gave federal employees the right to unionize
10. Increased government spending at home and abroad
He’d think the women have become hideously ugly trolls take one look across the fence at conservative women and declare himself a Reaganite.
11. Chose Lyndon Johnson as his Veep.
As to the debate question itself, it was a classic set-up with Bentsen and the “moderator” on the same page, pre-arranged, to ambush Qualye.
The media is scum now.
The media was scum then.
When exactly did the media transform from journalism to scum?
Yeah, The era of psycodelia, I was, shall we say, partaking. I think it was Emerson that was playing a portable keyboard and when the song crescendoed it turned into a flame thrower. To say I was amazed would be a huge understatement.
JFK would probably think, ‘What? All the hot women are republicans? I’m switching parties’.
Just like his brothers evolved, and just like the next two generations of Kennedys that followed him.
What would have gone through his mind?
The same thing Oswald put through his mind in Dallas.
He would have just been killed by some other hardcore socialist... just like “his party” has become.
I was part of the infatuation crowd. I was 16 when he was shot and in catholic schools. The priest were all Irish, my mother had a crush on him nd well the adorations was everywhere.
I learned a lot as i aged and the stories came out and I looked at marylyn Monroe’s death and judith exner and all of that. and the Warren report was not our finest hour no matter who you believe did it.
About that time, I had a dose of reality and what do they say, young and idealistic, old and practical.
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