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1 posted on 02/18/2017 7:46:29 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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They are not your fathers Christian leaders. They led USA independence from the pulpit. These people are dead heads, lost in their theology.


2 posted on 02/18/2017 7:58:34 PM PST by veracious (UN = OIC = Islam ; Democrats may change USAgov completely, just amend USConstitution)
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"Almighty God hath created the mind free, and manifested His supreme will that free it shall remain by making it altogether insusceptible of restraint. [* * *] All attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burthens, or by civil incapacitations, tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and are a departure from the plan of the Holy Author of our religion, who, being Lord both of body and mind, yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either, as was in his Almighty power to do, but to exalt it by its influence on reason alone." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: Statute of Religious Freedom. EDITION: Washington ed. viii, 454. EDITION: Ford ed., ii, 237. PLACE: [none given] DATE: 1779

"I sincerely rejoice at the acceptance of our new Constitution by nine States. It is a good canvas, on which some strokes only want retouching. What these are, I think are sufficiently manifested by the general voice from north to south, which calls for a bill of rights. It seems pretty generally understood that this should go to [* * *] religion. [* * *] The declaration, that religious faith shall be unpunished, does not give impunity to criminal acts, dictated by religious error." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: To James Madison. EDITION: Washington ed. ii, 445. EDITION: Ford ed., v, 45. PLACE: Paris DATE: July. 1788

"One of the amendments to the Constitution [* * *] expressly declares, that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press"; thereby guarding in the same sentence, and under the same words, the freedom of religion, of speech and of the press; insomuch, that whatever violates either, throws down the sanctuary which covers the others." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: Kentucky Resolutions. EDITION: Washington ed. ix, 466. EDITION: Ford ed., vii, 295. PLACE: [none given] DATE: 1798

"I am for freedom of religion, and against all manuvres to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: To Elbridge Gerry. EDITION: Washington ed. iv, 268. EDITION: Ford ed., vii, 328. PLACE: Philadelphia, DATE: 1799

"Freedom of religion I deem [one of the] essential principles of our government and, consequently, [one] which ought to shape its administration." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: First Inaugural Address. EDITION: Washington ed. viii, 4. EDITION: Ford ed., viii, 5. PLACE: [none given] DATE: 1801

"Among the most inestimable of our blessings is that [* * *] of liberty to worship our Creator in the way we think most agreeable to His will; a liberty deemed in other countries incompatible with good government and yet proved by our experience to be its best support." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: R. to A. of Baptists. EDITION: Washington ed. viii, 119. PLACE: [none given] DATE: 1807

"We have solved [* * *] the great and interesting question whether freedom of religion is compatible with order in government, and obedience to the laws. And we have experienced the quiet as well as the comfort which results from leaving every one to profess freely and openly those principles of religion which are the inductions of his own reason, and the serious convictions of his own inquiries." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: R. to A. Virginia Baptists. EDITION: Washington ed. viii, 139. PLACE: [none given] DATE: 1808

"Having ever been an advocate for the freedom of religious opinion and exercise, from no person, certainly, was an abridgment of these sacred rights to be apprehended less than from myself." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: R. to A. Pittsburg Methodists. EDITION: Washington ed. viii, 142. PLACE: [none given] DATE: 1808

"The Constitution has not placed our religious rights under the power of any public functionary." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: R. to A. Pittsburg Methodists. EDITION: Washington ed. viii, 142. PLACE: [none given] DATE: 1808

"There are certain principles in which the constitutions of our several States all agree, and which all cherish as vitally essential to the protection of the life, liberty, property and safety of the citizen. [One is] Freedom of Religion, restricted only from acts of trespass on that of others." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: To M. Coray. EDITION: Washington ed. vii, 323. PLACE: Monticello DATE: 1823 See Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom, in Appendix.

"Whatsoever is lawful in the Commonwealth, or permitted to the subject in the ordinary way, cannot be forbidden to him for religious uses; and whatsoever is prejudicial to the Commonwealth in their ordinary uses and, therefore, prohibited by the laws ought not to be permitted to churches in their sacred rites. For instance, it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things, or in a private house, to murder a child. It should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children: it is ordinarily lawful (or temporarily lawful) to kill calves or lambs. They may, therefore, be religiously sacrificed, but if the good of the State required a temporary suspension of killing lambs, as during a siege, sacrifices of them may then be rightfully suspended also. This is the true extent of toleration." Thomas Jefferson, TITLE: Notes on Religion. EDITION: Ford ed., ii, 102. PLACE: [none given] 1776?


3 posted on 02/18/2017 8:01:28 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s been said that resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.

God gave this country one more chance to turn from her wicked ways so He would be willing to heal our land. I pray we don’t squander this last chance.


4 posted on 02/18/2017 8:04:20 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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And while I am not comparing gay activists and their allies to Nazis and I am not comparing the Washington court’s ruling to Kristallnacht, I am comparing the silence of Christians then and now.

Why not make the comparison? The black clothed thugs who show up to destroy property and assault people in their efforts to stamp out freedom and free speech are most certainly the spiritual children of those responsible for Kristallnacht.

5 posted on 02/18/2017 8:08:32 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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6 posted on 02/18/2017 8:47:14 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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Not only should they be outspoken but they should be taking up collections to pay her bills. She was in fact taking a stand for all Christians. I am not even American but if you can point me towards a go fund me site (if she has one). I will gladly donate. Us Aussies know that whatever happens in America eventually happens here.


7 posted on 02/18/2017 9:31:31 PM PST by melsec (There's a track, winding back, to an old forgotten shack along the road to Gundagai..)
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Pass a Federal Law that says anyone found Guilty of not providing services for a Gay Wedding based on their Religious Beliefs will be fined $1 and all Records of the incident will be destroyed when the Fine is paid.


10 posted on 02/18/2017 9:44:42 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: SeekAndFind

First they came for the Socialists and I did not speak out. Because I was not a Socialist.
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Then they came for the Trade Unionists and I did not speak out.
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
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Then they came for the Jews and I did not speak out.
Because I was not a Jew.
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Then they came for me.
And there was no one left to speak for me.
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Father Niemoller
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Imprisoned in Sachsenhausen and Dachau Concentration Camps from 1937 to 1945.
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Never believe that it can’t happen here; things will hopefully get better in the next 4 to 16 years, but the so called Liberal/Progressives will never give up the hope of controlling all of us.
Even if it means concentration camps, or the extermination and the ovens for all conservatives.


11 posted on 02/19/2017 1:52:45 AM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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