[nathanbedford]

Begone!

In a word you have just expressed why you are indefatigable in your screeds against me personally, you are trying to build a case to get me zotted. "Begone!" Seeing me gone is clearly your goal.

In this atmosphere if I respond to your bait and offer up the context in which Trump's exhorting of the crowd with remarks tending to induce violence, you will seize upon the descriptions and merely claim it is evidence not of the facts as they occurred but of anti-Trump bias. Look reader, see how much he hates Donald Trump! Banish him!

In this atmosphere, if I respond to your bait for an explanation of isolated words which you quote from on last count somewhere in excess of 15,000 replies I have put on this forum, you will likewise distort them and eventually scream louder and louder for my banishment. To reply to your demands is to stimulate a great ravening hater by appeasing you with that which you are utterly unentitled and certainly unworthy. You want explanations of words plucked from somewhere in cyberspace but where oh where is the context you make so precious when you so often demand that I supply it to you? You are a transparent hypocrite!

No, Sargon, I will not rise to your bait. You cannot succeed in zotting me for what I have said on this thread because I have done nothing but quote Donald Trump's own words. I have even refrained from laying out the particular context for each individual remark which is really damning so as not to give you more ammunition, more opportunity to distort. The context I did describe to you was a matter of general knowledge.

I behave on this thread entirely above board and I tried here as I do in all my replies to supply facts and reasons for my opinions. The venomous reaction of you and other ankle biters spews out because they do not like the opinions they cannot counter with facts but only distortions so you attack the messenger, you deflect, you distort, you willfully misunderstand and misinterpret. Many fair-minded readers will see what is actually happening here.

I find it abhorrent that I am driven to propound this for the record, I do so only for the fair-minded reader to evaluate and to make it more difficult for you to achieve your goal to silence me,

For the Record: 1) I am not now and have never been a never-Trumper; 2) I pledged to support Trump if he were nominated and I did so through the election; 3) I support Trump on virtually every one of his policies except his projected Ivanka care, his apparent position now on Rino care, parts of his infrastructure spending-other parts I support- and I reserve decision on his trade activities to see what unfolds, I applaud what he has done so far in jawboning corporations to invest in America. 4) I fully support Trump in every respect on immigration, even where he has softened his stance; on his tax cutting proposals, on his promises to cut regulations, and generally on his promises to "drain the swamp." 5) I fully support Trump's efforts to determine whether he has been unlawfully surveilled and the contents unlawfully leaked, there is a very real possibility of a conspiracy. However, I think his tweets on Saturday morning at 5 AM were rash and could have been better crafted, 6) I applaud virtually every one of is appointments and have even written a vanity in support of his appointment of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. 7) I think Trump has often been intemperate and unwise in his tweets and during his presser when he excoriated the media, although I fully understand and support his motivation, it is merely his delivery and intemperance to which I object. 8) I fully support Trump and his executive orders so far especially including the original Executive Order which has been ruled unconstitutional concerning immigration delays from selected countries. I fully support his firing of attorneys general as being within the norm and wise.

You can see that I support Trump when his policies are congruent with my conservative principles (immigration, tax cuts, surveillance, infrastructure spending, education reform, Supreme Court appointment and many more) but I reserve the right to oppose President Trump, with due respect to the office, when I believe his proposals or actions are unconstitutional, unwise, or not conservative (Ivanka care, pork infrastructure spending, Rino care). I do not accept that criticism of Donald Trump is ipso facto out of bounds nor do I submit to your censorship of my beliefs just as I do not accept you traducing my reputation when falsely calling me a Trump hater. It is for the good of the Republic that every president, not excluding George Washington himself, has been criticized. Any other condition, such as we had under the Alien and Sedition Acts, is but the threshold to tyranny.

You had your say now but the fair minded reader of this thread knows I have merely cited Donald Trump's own words. You will have to wait until next time for your electronic lynching.

[sargon]

As is your pattern, you completely fail to repudiate your broad-brushed attacks on the President.

It's obvious to even to most casual FR members that you're an incorrigible Trump-hater, whatever honey-tongued coating or veneer of "geniune" concern you attempt to wrap it in.

It's equally obvious that you've cherry-picked, out of context, the quotes upon which you attempt to base your spurious argument that Donald Trump ever incited violence. That smear has been forcefully rejected by the vast majority of objective persons in this community, based on an overall evaluation of all the available information, as opposed to your selective distortions, several of which I've pointed out, and, of course, which you've declined to answer.

As for my nefarious "scheme" of getting you zotted, you will doubtless accomplish that on your own initiative, as you have done so in the past.

I certainly am not trying to "trick" you into doing so. My statement "Begone!" was simply a personal sentiment, nothing more.

So you're exhibiting characteristic paranoia when you assert that you've been "baited" into anything by little ol' me.

It suffices to note that you have never repudiated your own ad hominem attacks against Donald Trump—specifically that he is a "fraud", a "con man", and a "charlatan"—along a myriad of similar snot-nosed insults. It should also be pointed out that none of those sentiments have anything to do with your lofty claims regarding policy differences or philosophical distinctions.

These attacks on the President were and are precisely what they seem: mean-spirited character assassination, indistinguishable from the pathetic, disingenuous tactics of the propagandist Left.

As such, it's perfectly reasonable to infer that you remain a Trump-hater who cannot treat the President with even a modicum of fairness. The evidence accumulates with virtually each post you make, whether long-winded or brief.

Thus, it is similarly reasonable to conclude that your irrational hatred of the man colors your efforts at "persuasion".

So you just go ahead keep wrapping your hatred for the President in the faux trappings of thoughtfulness, constructive criticism, or whatever else you choose to call it, just know that there remain plenty of members of this community who will take it upon themselves to apprise the uninformed of your true Trump-hating nature and record, which, to this day, you have not repudiated.

The statements which permeate your posting history viz-a-viz Donald Trump stand as an compelling testament to the fact that your are not objective, not balanced, and not fair-minded with respect to all things Trump—indeed, you're a highly skillful anti-Trump propagandist, and I, for one, will tirelessly remind this community of that reality, and of the historical record which provides ample evidence in support thereof...