[hecticskeptic]

It all depends on what the meaning of the word “is” is. We basically are in an era where there is nothing said that doesn’t have an out buried in it somewhere.

[cornelis]

Like the Ryancare bill, that repeals the federal penalty and replaces it with an insurance fine. That's repeal and replace from the House leadership.

And then you have Tom Price standing there talking a hundred mph next to two stacks of papers, comparing the ryancare bill with the size of the obamacare bill. So, Mr and Mrs Patient: which is better, a pound of penalties or a pound of fines?