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The 60 vote problem has to be solved
The American Thinker ^ | 03/10/17 | Karin McQuillan

Posted on 03/10/2017 5:44:09 AM PST by pgkdan

We are told that without 60 votes in the Senate, we cannot pass new health care legislation, so the only practical course is to accept the limited changes to Obamacare possible through “reconciliation.”

Then there is the father of all lies. We are told not to worry about how bad this bill is, there will be phase 2, and after that, phase 3 – and then President Trump will keep his promises on health care.

.....SNIP....

It’s a bigger problem than health care reform. If Republicans can’t get a single piece of any sort of legislation passed without 60 votes, none of Trump’s agenda will be passed. Folks, we’re not going to get unanimity from Republicans on every bill plus 8 Democrats voting with us.

The sixty vote problem has to be solved.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 115th; filibuster; first100days; repealandreplace
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To: pgkdan

Harry Reid did half the job in getting rid of 60 vote rule. Time for Mc Connell to finish the job. His Majority is safe at least through the 2018 election.


21 posted on 03/10/2017 6:09:22 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (frequently.)
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To: pgkdan

I’d like to see a term limit on membership in each branch of Congress.
Serve the country for a period and then return to civilian life.


22 posted on 03/10/2017 6:10:07 AM PST by deport
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To: Adder
why do they think government has a role in running healthcare?

Because they have been running it since 1948 in one way or another, and huge majorities want them to?

23 posted on 03/10/2017 6:10:08 AM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: hopespringseternal

When you hear them refer to “their friends across the aisle” you have to ask, “really?” It seems they are being serious at times. Like these. The thing we need to be doing is following up on our recent electoral victory by crushing these global Marxists into dust but our GOP elite seem determined to prevent any real harm from befalling their “friends”. It really gets old.


24 posted on 03/10/2017 6:14:15 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: pgkdan

ACA and budget reconciliation a bad mix

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3533365/posts


25 posted on 03/10/2017 6:14:16 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: C210N

Ryan looks like Quagmire.


26 posted on 03/10/2017 6:16:16 AM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: pgkdan

No.


27 posted on 03/10/2017 6:16:39 AM PST by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Neither do I. He has been in office TWO MONTHS. This mess is ten years old at best and it will take time to fix. Patience has never been my strong point but I am trying. Go Trump! Transport all GOPe moles halfway to the moon.


28 posted on 03/10/2017 6:17:12 AM PST by owlbaby58
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To: meyer
I’m confused. Didn’t Harry Reid already do away with the 60 vote rule?

Not entirely. Only to confirm the President's nominations to everything but the Supreme Court.

People say that if we end the filibuster rule that when the dems get back in power they'll have a clear path to ram through their agenda. I believe that if they retake control of the Senate killing the filibuster will be number one on their agenda. And THEN they'll ram through their agenda. Kill it now and at least then we'll see some advantage.

The filibuster needs to be killed. It's about damn time we do something that will actually make midterm elections meaningful because every midterm win we've had since the Reagan era has meant absolutely nothing.

29 posted on 03/10/2017 6:18:40 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Common Sense 101

Trump was supposed to provide leadership to overcome them, not to reinforce them.


30 posted on 03/10/2017 6:18:47 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Waiting for the tweets to hatch!)
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To: hopespringseternal
One of the most unpopular pieces of legislation ever crafted and flipping 8 democrat senators is out of the question? I am not buying it.

We'd probably have to flip 14 or 15 to make up for Flake and McCain, Graham, Collins et al.

31 posted on 03/10/2017 6:20:25 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: pgkdan

So get rid of the rule, pass all the important stuff, then pass a LAW requiring 60 votes for cloture. or better yet, an amendment.


32 posted on 03/10/2017 6:21:00 AM PST by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Everyone seems to forget how many times this board has reacted to the appearance of Trump caving. He hasn’t yet, and I am comfortable waiting to see how this ends because I think Trump will come out on top. At least we have someone arguing for conservatism in Washington now. As for phase 2 and phase three, if left to Ryan and McConnell, phase 2 would be more excuses, and phase three would be even more excuses.


33 posted on 03/10/2017 6:24:49 AM PST by Yogafist
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To: Jim Noble

That’s one of the arguments McConnell uses to keep from doing anything. Fine. Let’s keep the same old rules and tie our hands and keep President Trump from enacting the agenda he was elected to enact. Then when the dems retake the Senate you can be damned sure they’ll finish what Harry started and ram THEIR agenda down our throats without us having done anything meaningful while we control both houses and the WH. Typical Republican bullshit. I don’t know why it bothers me, it’s what they’ve done all my f*cking adult life. I should be used to it by now!


34 posted on 03/10/2017 6:25:45 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: C210N

I have a feeling that firing Mitch McConnell would solve it very quickly.


35 posted on 03/10/2017 6:27:02 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: pgkdan

In 2008, GOP said they couldn’t do anything to prevent DeathCare. In 2010, we gave them the House. Nothing.

Then they said they couldn’t do anything without the Senate. In 2014, we gave them the Senate. Meaningless bills.

Then they said they couldn’t do anything without the Presidency. In 2016, we gave them the Presidency.

We are now going to get screwed AGAIN. 2018 is closer than you think.


36 posted on 03/10/2017 6:35:35 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: deport

“...term limit...”

Yes strongly agree. Term limits would solve so much of this power play finagling that is not in the American taxpayers interest.


37 posted on 03/10/2017 6:38:15 AM PST by stonehouse01
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To: pgkdan

Just implement Rule 19....limits discussion on the topic to two speeches for each Senator ,....and requires a 50% vote to pass when all Senators have had their two speeches.


38 posted on 03/10/2017 6:39:19 AM PST by spokeshave (In the Thatch Weave,..Trump's Wing Man is Truth)
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To: JohnBovenmyer
Trump was supposed to provide leadership to overcome them, not to reinforce them.

As someone new to dealing with the political scum of this country, I'm willing to give Trump some latitude regarding his tacit acceptance of this "initial step", however as he did with leaving the Obama scum in place throughout the bureaucracy, he should not make the same mistake and underestimate the gutlessness and deceit of these GOPe vermin.

39 posted on 03/10/2017 6:42:16 AM PST by Common Sense 101
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To: stonehouse01

If term limits are appropriate for the President it should
also be appropriate for the Congressional Delegation.


40 posted on 03/10/2017 6:43:52 AM PST by deport
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