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Did Obama Spy on Trump? (Judge Napolitano)
RCP ^ | Andrew Napolitano

Posted on 03/17/2017 11:26:22 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

Today the National Security Agency has 24/7 access to the mainframe computers of all telecom providers and all computer service providers and to all digital traffic carried by fiber optics in the U.S. The NSA has had this access pursuant to FISA court orders issued in 2005 and renewed every 90 days. The FISA court has based its rulings on its own essentially secret convoluted logic, never subjected to public scrutiny. That has resulted in the universal surveillance state in which we in America now live. The NSA has never denied this.

Thus, in 2016, when Trump says the surveillance of him took place, Obama needed only to ask the NSA for a transcript of Trump's telephone conversations to be prepared from the digital versions that the NSA already possessed. Because the NSA has the digital version of every telephone call made to, from and within the U.S. since 2005, if President Obama last year wanted transcripts of Trump's calls made at any time, the NSA would have been duty-bound to provide them, just as it would be required to provide transcripts of Obama's calls today if President Trump wanted them.

But if Obama did order the NSA to prepare transcripts of Trump's conversations last fall under the pretext of national security -- to find out whether Trump was communicating with the Russians would have been a good excuse -- there would exist somewhere a record of such an order. For that reason, if Obama did this, he no doubt used a source on which he'd leave no fingerprints.

Enter James Bond.

Sources have told Fox News that the British foreign surveillance service, the Government Communications Headquarters, known as GCHQ, most likely provided Obama with transcripts of Trump's calls.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: judgenap; judgenapolitano; obamagate; obamatrump; trump
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1 posted on 03/17/2017 11:26:22 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Another discussion of Judge Nap’s comments and clip from Bill StilL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxWaWqCfu1Y


2 posted on 03/17/2017 11:29:33 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: RoosterRedux
You really think Obama would ask FISA for a warrant?? He didn't when he did surveillance on half the population.....and Clapper and Brennan both lied their little a**** off....under oath and before Congress.

Thank you wikileaks.

3 posted on 03/17/2017 11:31:55 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: RoosterRedux

Judge going under the bus. “Why are you asking me? It was FOX.”


4 posted on 03/17/2017 11:36:19 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election!)
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To: RoosterRedux

The judge just got an impassioned defense from Trump at the Merkel presser.


5 posted on 03/17/2017 11:39:02 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: RoosterRedux

The judge just got an impassioned defense from Trump at the Merkel presser.


6 posted on 03/17/2017 11:39:02 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Lisbon1940

That is not being thrown under the bus. The Judge has sources and I think he is right


7 posted on 03/17/2017 11:40:20 AM PDT by McGavin999
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Ping.


8 posted on 03/17/2017 11:42:55 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Sacajaweau

Most folks on here know my feelings in general about lawyers.I am certainly not a Libertarian but I happen to have the upmost confidence in Andrew Napoli tank. I do not agree with a lot of things he says but it is not for his reasoning,I suppose you would say it is my philosophy.. His reasoning just makes sense to me.


9 posted on 03/17/2017 11:45:46 AM PDT by Herman Ball
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To: 9YearLurker

Saw/heard that!
Kudos


10 posted on 03/17/2017 11:48:53 AM PDT by Guenevere (If my people......will humble themselves and pray and seek my face .....I will heal their land...)
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To: RoosterRedux
...GCHQ, most likely provided Obama with transcripts of Trump's calls.

The walkback begins...

11 posted on 03/17/2017 11:49:43 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: Guenevere

What did he say?


12 posted on 03/17/2017 11:52:25 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Guenevere

I loved when he was asked about Obama spying on him, how he turned to Merkel and said, “I guess we have something in common.”


13 posted on 03/17/2017 11:52:46 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: RoosterRedux

Later


14 posted on 03/17/2017 11:56:08 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: RoosterRedux

For the life of me, I just don’t get how leftists like Obama or Soros, or intelligence agents or senators, can feel better knowing they’ve lied about everything they’re doing.

How does lying make things better for you people?


15 posted on 03/17/2017 12:00:30 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: RoosterRedux

Thus, in 2016, when Trump says the surveillance of him took place, Obama needed only to ask the NSA for a transcript of Trump’s telephone conversations to be prepared from the digital versions that the NSA already possessed.


This is not universally true. I used to work with the law enforcement relations area of T-Mobile. Sure, there is all sorts of information saved, but the actual voice information is not.

They know who you called, when, how long you were on the phone and even your location during the call (via tower data). But they don’t have the call itself, unless a subpoena was used to actively record your calls.

Unless something has changed in the last five years...


16 posted on 03/17/2017 12:00:34 PM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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Your intentions are good but they pick up all data now and it can be easily translated from that stored data state into voice data and a transcript.

That’s what President Trump is stating.


17 posted on 03/17/2017 12:06:05 PM PDT by romanesq (For George Soros so loved the world, he gave us Obama)
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To: semimojo

You caught it too. Enter wiggle room.


18 posted on 03/17/2017 12:07:24 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: romanesq

Well, I left the company just over five years ago. So my information may be dated.

And I have a serious problem with them recording voice data without a subpoena. Because there is no need to save that data, it should not be saved. Period. Unless they have a warrant.

It is an illegal recording in virtually (if not literally) all states. Yes, it is that simple.


19 posted on 03/17/2017 12:12:34 PM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: RoosterRedux

I am listening to conservative talk radio host Michael Medved, and he says this judge has absolutely no credibility.


20 posted on 03/17/2017 12:15:03 PM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat)
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