[New Jersey Realist]

REPEAL and do not replace OBAMACARE. Our country survived over 200 years without government meddling in our health choices. It is a liberal idea and why the hell are we embracing it?

[babble-on]

Is it your hypothesis that prior to 2010 there was no government role in the health care market?

[originalbuckeye]

We shouldn’t embrace it. But the Libs have convinced around 50% of the people that health care is a RIGHT. I had that argument with a Lib Cousin back in 2007. He put forth the phrase ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness’ as his proof of health care being a RIGHT. The ‘life’ part was his reasoning.....to which I pointed out that the word ‘life’ simply meant ‘life’ not cradle to grave health care that doctors, nurses, etc., provide as their conditions of employment. I also pointed out that the Left doesn't care about nascent human life, in the form of a baby in the womb, so how could he justify abortion, as that really IS 'life'.? He rejected that premise, out of hand. They have their talking points, but logic isn't part of the argument. I also asked him, a white collar worker in the auto industry, why it wasn't a RIGHT to own a car? People needs car to enhance their lives, be able to work, etc. He said that was a ‘stupid’ argument. You can make circuitous arguments all the time with Lefties, but they rarely use logic in their emotional rants.