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House GOP leaders emerge from late-night meeting without yet securing enough votes
CNN ^ | 3/22/2017 | MJ Lee, Deirdre Walsh, Phil Mattingly and Lauren Fox

Posted on 03/22/2017 8:54:03 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

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To: HangThemHigh
do you think Trump/Ryan will completely repeal the AHCA act and return the power to the states

Yes.

Can we hang this on Ryan (Ryancare)?

I wish to hell they had merely called this what it is:

"An Act to Defund Obamacare".

That's how it should have been presented, and that's what it should have been called.

I doubt seriously the MSM will go for that in the long run.

No, of course not. They will do everything they can to oppose and obstruct the destruction of their god's precious Obamacare legacy, to their own demise.

(The will of the people be damned)

81 posted on 03/23/2017 8:19:24 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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To: weston

worth not repeating

Obamacare does not require a vote. The Democrats own it, and it will sink without any help (or vote) from us.

The insurance industry reps and GOPe sycophants in this forum have outed themselves yet again


82 posted on 03/23/2017 8:27:42 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: napscoordinator

Now that’s a perspective I hadn’t thought about.

It’s easier to whine and complain about someone else’s work than to do your own.


83 posted on 03/23/2017 8:51:49 AM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian)
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To: CottonBall

MEMO TO MARK MEADOWS: Stop grandstanding and start doing something for the country. Don’t be partisan!!


84 posted on 03/23/2017 9:25:57 AM PDT by FlyCaster ("No illegal alien left behind..." President Bush)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Just saying putting a group sans conservative party members behind closed doors to craft a bill, then limiting amendments is the way democrats do a major piece of legislation.

First this repeal and replace should have been crafted years ago, and updated on a yearly basis. Then, when Donald Trump was elected they take it to his team and get their input.

So Ryan goes to Trump and says this is the best you’re going to get. Now we see the backlash from the Freedom caucus. The bill does not get government out of healthcare.


85 posted on 03/23/2017 10:06:23 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: Alter Kaker

THE RINOS ARE KILLING OUR BILL!!!Trump and the real conservatives made a “deal” . The drafting was all that was left. Then PAUL RYAN APPOSES BECAUSE IT DOESN’T HAVE ENOUGH OBAMACARE?

RINOS KILLED IT!! RINOS KILLED IT!! THERE WAS A DEAL!!!


86 posted on 03/23/2017 10:13:09 AM PDT by WENDLE (DEFEAT RINOCARE. NO RINOCARE!!--FREE MARKET WITH SAFETY NET!!)
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First this repeal and replace should have been crafted years ago, and updated on a yearly basis. Then, when Donald Trump was elected they take it to his team and get their input.

It was, the author is DHHS Secretary, Dr Tom Price....anxiously waiting for his crack at reforms in step two.

So Ryan goes to Trump and says this is the best you’re going to get.

I don't know if he said that, but this type of bill (budget reconciliation) can be done with very little RAT interference. 51 Senate votes and very limited debate...no filibuster. It can only make fiscal adjustments, in this case....DEFUNDING Obamacare.

Now we see the backlash from the Freedom caucus.

Actually DJT meeting with the FC, gaining their support, understanding this is only the first step.

The bill does not get government out of healthcare.

No, but it rips the guts out of tax-dollars paying for it.

87 posted on 03/23/2017 11:15:55 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I see President Trump said if Ryan can’t deliver the votes on healthcare, he is moving on to tax reform. I agree with you that President Trump has had good meetings with the Freedom Caucus. Now if only the establishment republicans could treat conservatives as equal partners.


88 posted on 03/23/2017 5:55:31 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

buying insurance across state lines, which is not in this bill.<<< nicely analyzed. thank you


89 posted on 03/23/2017 7:42:53 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (all your base are belong to us)
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To: OrioleFan
Now if only the establishment republicans could treat conservatives as equal partners.

That is a real big wish. I'm afraid that just like the RATs, the RINOs need to be dealt with by defeat, not compromise.

90 posted on 03/23/2017 8:23:01 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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To: kvanbrunt2
nicely analyzed. thank you

I thank you.

91 posted on 03/23/2017 8:25:31 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Agreed. Next year hopefully we can extend the winning streak here in Ohio by getting rid of Sherrod Brown in the Senate. I had a real nasty exchange with him once over immigration.


92 posted on 03/23/2017 10:06:46 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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