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White House looks past conservatives on tax reform - to Democrats
Reuters ^ | March 26th, 2017 | By Lindsay Dunsmuir and Doina Chiacu

Posted on 03/26/2017 1:11:20 PM PDT by Mariner

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To: JoSixChip
I'm all in with President Trump, but there is no doubt in my mind that he would sign a single-payer health care bill if it showed up on his desk.

This is why I said last year that a combination of Donald Trump in the White House and the Democrats in control of Congress could potentially become an unmitigated disaster.

81 posted on 03/26/2017 2:10:31 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: Kenny

I didn’t ever say, no would I, that the HFC is at fault.

I said it was Republicans in Congress, and that is CLEARLY the case.


82 posted on 03/26/2017 2:11:36 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: RightInTheMain
If you accept as a principle that you are obligated to pay for somebody else's healthcare, you are not going anywhere incrementally but to the left.

Ryan conceded the argument that there is a Federal entitlement to healthcare. That was never part of the Republican platform, and refusing to support that position was the correct one.

83 posted on 03/26/2017 2:11:44 PM PDT by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: Mariner

Sure this is not fake news?

Let’s wait and see.


84 posted on 03/26/2017 2:12:11 PM PDT by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: MaxistheBest
Rep Ted Poe (R-TX) resigns from Freedom Caucus. Tells Meadows. Had planned to vote yea on health care bill

Strange. I'm looking at the Wiki list of Freedom Caucus members and former Freedom Caucus members and I don't see his name.

Must be a mistake that he's not listed. Right?

85 posted on 03/26/2017 2:14:10 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Alberta's Child

As I said in another post on this thread, Trump puts a premium on loyalty and trust, but seems to forget this is a two-way street.

The only people who can truly destroy Trump’s presidency is his base. If he keeps doing some of things he’s doing, he’s going to accomplish that in short order.

It’s still early.


86 posted on 03/26/2017 2:15:07 PM PDT by Artcore (Donald J. Trump - 45th President of the United States of America!)
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To: old curmudgeon

“He would have had all of them on board and that was/is all he needed.”

Not so. The further the bill moved toward liberty the more “moderate” Republicans they lost. They tried to thread the needle in the GOP caucus alone and found that middle in the GOP caucus to only be about 190 votes wide.

A “Repeal Only” bill would lose with 420+ votes NAY.

That’s our sad political reality.


87 posted on 03/26/2017 2:15:11 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: wiseprince
Be refusing to accept legislation that won't work, we let the even worse legislation fail even more miserably. And get none of the blame. That's a far better outcome than signing on to legislation that will also fail, but for which we will then own.
88 posted on 03/26/2017 2:15:28 PM PDT by sourcery (Non Acquiescit: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: FreeReign

LOL!


89 posted on 03/26/2017 2:15:47 PM PDT by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: wiseprince

“He’ll get nothing done if he sticks to Republicans alone”

That is a political truth.


90 posted on 03/26/2017 2:16:19 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Hannity Ban non Cotton Rand Ted etc need to do an intervention on trump and explain he is headed for destruction and a one term.


91 posted on 03/26/2017 2:16:52 PM PDT by Panhandle.deporable
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To: wiseprince

Obama’s illegal DACA program becomes Trump’s illegal DACA program if he continues it.


92 posted on 03/26/2017 2:17:23 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: sourcery

Be refusing to accept legislation that won’t work, we let the even worse legislation fail even more miserably. And get none of the blame. That’s a far better outcome than signing on to legislation that will also fail, but for which we will then own.

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Exactly! And this should be Trump’s position (maybe it is?), but Trump thought it would be advantageous to attack the FC, and by extension, a portion of his base. I’m growing weary of people trying to convince us that this is “brilliance” we’re witnessing. Helping the Left to divide our base is not brilliant...it’s just plain dumb!


93 posted on 03/26/2017 2:19:10 PM PDT by Artcore (Donald J. Trump - 45th President of the United States of America!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Hahaha, ok there buddy. Enjoy the air up there.


94 posted on 03/26/2017 2:20:11 PM PDT by wiseprince
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To: Mariner
My own Republican Congressman announced that he wasn't going to support the Ryan bill -- and he is one of those "moderates."

I'm still waiting for Donald Trump to post a sarcastic Twitter message thanking him for saving Obamacare and Planned Parenthood's funding.

The Twitter silence on this one is deafening.

95 posted on 03/26/2017 2:20:41 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: FreeReign

“Ryan supported, voted for and passed a January 2016 ACA repeal only bill. “

That same bill would lose by over 400 votes in the House today.


96 posted on 03/26/2017 2:21:22 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Williams

I believe a lot of us warned this was coming. I’m sure we’ll get true conservative legislation when the freedom caucus votes are replaced with democrats.


And how much “true conservative legislation” have you gotten with the freedom caucus? Jim Jordan is great flapping his gums on TV but couldn’t get his wonderful bill out of committee.


97 posted on 03/26/2017 2:23:08 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Artcore
I wouldn't worry too much about the attack on the Freedom Caucus -- because it was posted in a Twitter message.

If you put together a book containing all of Trump's Twitter posts and you didn't know who authored them, you'd probably conclude that they were written by either a mad genius or by someone who was mildly retarded. LOL.

98 posted on 03/26/2017 2:23:23 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: Alberta's Child

This is from Reuters. Just sayin’.


99 posted on 03/26/2017 2:23:47 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
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To: JoSixChip

Trump was on record in support of single payer more than 20 years ago.

Dozens of times during the primaries and the general campaign he stated “Everyone will be covered”. In front of 10s of thousands of people, millions if you count the home audience.

He would sign a single payer plan.


100 posted on 03/26/2017 2:24:07 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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