Posted on 03/30/2017 1:35:58 AM PDT by Freedom56v2
Samsung televisions spy on home viewers and even THAT isn’t generating the same level of outrage from libs.
The problem is that you know when you are on google and you can move to another browser like Firefox. Or open a private window. If this goes through they can see and record everything for everybody. There would be no way to privately do anything on the internet. ISPs have way more knowledge than google or facebook.
Right now ISPs are very carefull not to let out information about which household is watching what. Each household gets a number and that number may be in a zipcode and be associated with a household income and a family of four. But nobody is allowed to know which house or the families name. And they can’t associate your cable to your internet usage. And they can’t sell which sites you use. But this bill lets them do all of that. And they have a lot of the info now. They just don’t do anything with it. But with this they can sell it to anybody. Then anybody can do whatever they wish.
Trust me I work for Comcast. This is a very bad thing. Trump and the Republicans (or the democrats) are not working in our interest here. The reason they are doing it is for the FBI. Its not really for the companies. The FBI wants the companies to collect the information and write tools to mine it so they can spy on us more easily. Right now they really can’t. Once they know you are a person of interest they of course can watch everything you do on line. But if this goes through they can, for example, in seconds find out who all the Freepers are and where they live.
The Samsung TV issue is not the same. With that they need a warrant. Also, they need to know who you are first. But this is way different. With this they can find you. With this hey can find in seconds the households and names of everyone on a Freeper thread. Even if you are on a special browser and a private window with a fake name. They will collect every address you ever go to. And search it in seconds and associate it with other addresses and other people. This would allow them to round up and jail all the Freepers in a week. This is real Chinese stuff.
Right now the government can’t do it if they don’t know who you are. They can do it if they do know who you are. Once your name is known they can search back and find out where you have been. But with this they can find you too. The government needs the companies like Comcast to write the tools. Comcast (who owns NBC, CNBC) are not interested in building that unless they can make money at it. And they are not making money of the government is the only client.
Oh, and by the way it won’t be just our government that finds out where you live. If our government can find out and if google can buy it. The Russians will know where you are in a heart beat. Our government and Google don’t keep secrets. And by the way, think about our next supreme court nominee. Every web-site he ever went to will be known. Maybe not by us but by both parties. The government will be selected by like minded people.
Demand that your ISP not collect such information. Drop your carrier and only support one that promises not to engage in such behavior.
Marketplace solutions.
Also demand that your book seller (Dalton or Amazon) not keep tabs on your past purchases.
That’s not really possible. In most places there are two. The phone company and the cable company. Both will sell your info. You will not have a safe option. There are some smaller ISPs in some places. But most of us don’t really have that option. 10 ISPs will collect around 95% of the country who uses an ISP. 6 ISPs will collect over 80% of the country, ATT, Verizon, Comcast, Charter, Cox, and Cablevision. And most people only have one or two options without paying double or more. And even paying double cable providers are the ones that give you acceptable speed.
Hey if you’re scared, that’s good for you.
I make an agreement to share that info.
Sorry you get your panties in a bunch because you can’t distinguish between consent and non consent.
I’ll explain them to you if you want me to :)
I am reaching back in my memory to the beginning of the Ted Cruz campaign, but I think they were using some “new” database that had collected data on voters, and I thought it was probably “republican” types more so than “democrats”. That was the first red flag when I was supporting him. I think that database would be why the republicans are pushing this.
Democrats have probably been using Obamas powerful database that Maxine Waters was gushing about so they can look like they are for the peoples right to privacy.
Google and Facebook make billions off selling personal information without knowledge or approval of the public. Both also have a heavy influence on elections favoring the fascist left, the Muslim pigs, and sniveling liberals.
“All in favor of eliminating online privacy, say aye...”
WTF??? FAKE NEWS!!!!!
These aholes were elected to secure the border, deport the illegals, get rid of Obamacare, and to appoint conservative supreme court justices. That’s their mandate and I haven’t really seen them do any of that because they just can’t manage to work together but now I see them all somehow working together to destroy internet anonymity and I don’t know anyone that likes that plan so I’m calling BS. and you’re the one that got his panties in the wad over nothing BTW.
“Does anyone have any information on this? Given what has been in the news regarding surveillance, I don’t know who or what to trust!”
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Pretty simple, actually. If you value privacy when it comes to your personal info, you’re against it.
If you’re one of the “I got nothing to hide from the government, I’ll gladly hand over my personal private info to anyone who asks!” types then you’re for this; yet another law to make it easy to do just that.
This sounds like a good time to move forward on making the rest of FreeRepublic HTTPS SSL-encrypted. The "secure." subdomain already has an SSL cert with Comodo, but it's specific to that subdomain.
A "deluxe" cert is only a hundred bucks per year at GoDaddy and configuring it isn't a big deal.
Yeah, I know OpenSSL isn't perfect. But at least it stops the "www." subdomain from being low-hanging fruit for the bad guys.
Or is there a reason I don't know about, that keeps www. from going to HTTPS?
This article is on Drudge, Center Large Title. It is NOT behind paywall, it provides some good background.
With Washington’s Blessing, Telecom Giants Can Mine Your Web History
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3539427/posts
Last night, I didn’t understand the legislation; however, from what WSJ article says, this rule change allows our ISP to collect data and monetize it...like Facebook and Google. I don’t think 2 wrongs make a right. Why is anyone collecting and monetizing my data—especially when I am paying my ISP big bucks every month for their service?!?!
Given what is going on in Washington DC right now regarding surveillance, I hope the Trump administration will pull the plug on this...I don’t like Google and Facebook doing this...but to allow Verizon and AT&T to do it as well is just plain crazy!
What are these Republicans thinking?!?!
I am going to email Trump my concerns.
I found this reply the most helpful answer here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3539349/posts?page=22#22
I’ve heard this point brought up elsewhere too: the government will use this for spying on individuals. They will know everything people are looking at, and this bill will likely have a chilling effect on people’s internet use. Not depending on the fake news of the MSM will make you a government target. It looks like the next step towards making us more like China.
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