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Was Martin Luther an Anti-Semite?
Townhall.com ^ | April 1, 2017 | Michael Browne

Posted on 04/01/2017 7:10:18 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: GingisK

We could use a little of that Crusading spirit. Just sayin’....


81 posted on 04/01/2017 9:50:02 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Our Lady of Guadalupe is a Jew.)
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To: uscga77

Amen!


82 posted on 04/01/2017 9:50:32 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Luther didn’t invent anti-Semitism. He was no better but no worse than his Roman Catholic contemporaries. His particular set of beliefs were essentially codified in Nazi Germany due to the fact that the German State Church was Lutheran, it was corrupted and perverted intentionally by the Nazis, to their own ends. They hated Christians and Christianity, only surpassed by their wildly murderous hatred of Jews.

I’ve stated many times my opposition to any State Church, not just in the US but worldwide. It’s wrong, it corrupts the religious belief and it corrupts the State. Roman Catholics have no room to critique a State Church, however, with the Vatican being more than just a mere State Church itself. It’s a State, with a seat at the United Nations.

For those sincere believers within the Roman Catholic Church, and I’ve known many, maybe this will help you with your difficulty in understanding why your current Pope is so preoccupied with the political to the point that he’s been antithetical to Catholic doctrine. The State has corrupted and taken over the religion just as it did in Germany.

Who are the enemies of the State this time? Ponder that, Traditionalists.


83 posted on 04/01/2017 9:53:31 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Just don’t go and kill them all this time, OK?


84 posted on 04/01/2017 9:53:54 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: kindred

Correctly-thinking Christians do not accept Sola Scriptura. It is not a Biblical doctrine.


85 posted on 04/01/2017 9:54:23 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The Church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the Truth." - 1 Timothy 3:15)
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To: Gumdrop
So to reiterate everything that he said about Jews or did 500 years ago is not particularly helpful or valuable.

But that's just it. These hit pieces never reiterate everything Martin Luther said about the Jews. I'm not excusing the horrible things Martin Luther said, but he said much that wasn't horrible.

Martin Luther's final sermon on the Jews was called "We want to treat them with Christian love and to pray for them, so that they might become converted and would receive the Lord".

He said Jews lied because they denied Christ. He said Jews were trying to kill us, because Jews wanted us to doubt our savior. He went way too far with some of his writing, but it was never about race.

Here is an LCMS statement about Martin Luther...

While The Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod holds Martin Luther in high esteem for his bold proclamation and clear articulation of the teachings of Scripture, it deeply regrets and deplores statements made by Luther which express a negative and hostile attitude toward the Jews. In light of the many positive and caring statements concerning the Jews made by Luther throughout his lifetime, it would not be fair on the basis of these few regrettable (and uncharacteristic) negative statements, to characterize the reformer as "a rabid anti-Semite." The LCMS, however, does not seek to "excuse" these statements of Luther, but it denounces them (without denouncing Luther's theology).

86 posted on 04/01/2017 9:54:34 AM PDT by Tao Yin
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To: Mom MD
Here is the rub.

Catholic theology allows for wicked popes and other leaders to be cast into utter darkness. It does not teach a "once saved, always saved" doctrine. It is a mortal wound to Reformation theology to admit Martin Luther will not inherit the Kingdom of God because of how he ended his days, and so it must grasp at every straw to overlook who he really was. Some fundamentalists (i.e., Baptists) can asset Luther was never really "saved" and so their theology dispenses with him and the mortal threat he poses to their profession.

Can you allow that Martin Luther is not saved ?
87 posted on 04/01/2017 9:58:46 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Mom MD
It's true that we all, individually and collectively, have a great deal to repent. There are shameful things in my life I would not want to have on videotape for the world to see.

Yet God does graciously allow sinners to serve His purposes and eventually, even, share His glory.

88 posted on 04/01/2017 9:59:57 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The riddles of God are more satisfying than the solutions of man." - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Rome2000
"Their is a direct correlation between the actions of Henry VIII and Luther and the state of immorality and chaos in the USA in 2017.

That sounds pretty loony to me, but why don't you explain your reasoning?

89 posted on 04/01/2017 10:10:11 AM PDT by neocon1984
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To: Wilhelm Tell

In the immortal words of Alan Sherman - “oh boy”


90 posted on 04/01/2017 10:12:24 AM PDT by shineon
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To: af_vet_1981

I do not know Martin luthers soul only God does But if his profession of faith in Christ in the small and large catechisms and the Augsburg confession is real he is most definitely saved Christ paid for our sins To be saved we need to repent, believe in Christ and His stoning sacrifice for us and be covered by His blood That is all. There is no sin Christs sacrifice cannot cover Mine included. Luthers antisemetism is no worse than any other sin and if he trusted Christ for his salvation it is blotted out completely


91 posted on 04/01/2017 10:21:53 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Ask Paul When the Bereans had honest questions what did Paul do? He opened scripture When Christ met the disciples on the road to Emmaus what did He fo? He opened scripture to them When Christ rebuked Satan after His temptation what did He do? He quoted scripture The Bible is the revealed word of God I would say any Christian who uses any other source is wrong thinking Unfortunately this is one area where Catholics and protestants will never agree


92 posted on 04/01/2017 10:26:34 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Always A Marine

Oops! That’s “grace” not “RACE”!!


93 posted on 04/01/2017 10:39:15 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The riddles of God are more satisfying than the solutions of man." - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Mary was saved from her own sins just as we are, through “grace by the merits of Christ our Lord and God, her Savior” as you phrased it so clearly. Without the substitution of Christ’s perfect sacrifice, even one sin falls short of the perfect standard and merits the just penalty of eternal separation from God. Jesus paid that penalty for Mary, too.


94 posted on 04/01/2017 10:46:45 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Mom MD
Our Catholic friends, who claim the RCC gave us the Bible, seem to go out of their way at times to disown the very book they claim to have given us.

Scripture is the only inspired writings we have.

The opinions of the many ECFs, which often contradict not only each other, but official RCC teachings on the various topics, are just that...their opinions.

Every RCC priest, Sunday School teacher, bible study leader, etc puts together their own materials and lessons. They inject their opinion as to what they believe the text says.

We see this on these threads all day.

95 posted on 04/01/2017 10:51:43 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone; RegulatorCountry; vladimir998
"...the worship of Mary, the idols of Mary... are current practices in the RCC."

They are not. And, if you have normal reading comprehension, you've been amply corrected and you know that. That's what makes this kind of discussion so tedious, sometimes.

Or comical, if you kind of tilt your head and squint.

Idol of Mary, plus idols of angels, pagan nobility and livestock, as worshiped in a Baptist church, Tennessee, USA, Christmas, 2016

96 posted on 04/01/2017 10:56:01 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The riddles of God are more satisfying than the solutions of man." - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: ealgeone

BOniface had his dingbat opinions, I have mine!


97 posted on 04/01/2017 10:57:42 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The riddles of God are more satisfying than the solutions of man." - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I sincerely doubt that you or anyone else saw Baptists kneeling before their little Christmas creche, or praying to it, lighting candles before it or leaving flowers and other offerings.


98 posted on 04/01/2017 11:00:01 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I concede that point, doubling it.


99 posted on 04/01/2017 11:02:24 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: ealgeone

Peter bar Jonah, Paul of Tarsus, John the Revelator, John the Baptist, James of the Jerusalem church, Mary and Martha, Mary the mother of Jesus, all Jews before and after they met Jesus.

Founders of the Christian Church.

Jesus both man and God. God became flesh. 100% Jewish and 100% Diety...

Christianity came from all these people. Jesus did not want to do it alone, he established the Church with the help of his family and friends.

He said to Peter - upon this Rock I build my Church....

That’s all I have to say on the matter for now.. We can argue these facts among ourselves at a later date.... ha ha ha...


100 posted on 04/01/2017 11:02:39 AM PDT by shineon
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