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To: Subcutaneous Fishstick Blues
I thought I was the only one that posted without reading ...

"EVERYTHING I SAID ABOVE IS BASED ON THE SAME IDEALISM THAT A COS WOULD BE BASED ON .... IMPOSSIBLE PEOPLE DOING IMPOSSIBLE THINGS BECAUSE IT IS ALL PAST AND NO LONGER POSSIBLE."

17 posted on 04/25/2017 6:46:53 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: knarf
I read that part; it sounds as thought you are against an Article V Convention for proposing Constitutional Amendments. And that you're going to describe a scenario that is a straw man that you claim is analogous, so you can easily knock it down. Is this incorrect?

But there are a couple of things you and Mister Anti-Federalist Fanboy Purist, and frankly, most anti-Article V reactionaries so conveniently ignore as you go on and on about what you imagine will happen:

1. It's NOT a Constitutional Convention. It's a convention for proposing amendments to the Constitution. After the convention, each state legislature still has to ratify each proposed amendment until either 38 states have or the deadline for ratification of the amendment is passed. Just as is with any amendment proposed by Congress.
You write some convoluted text to apparently make the point, as others have, that people today aren't of the same intellectual and/or moral caliber of the drafters of the Constitution. But we're not asking them to draft a Constitution, only proposed amendments, something Congress has done numerous times. What is it that you are in fact saying; that only Congress can be trusted to draft proposed amendments? Because that is logical outcome of your position, and the Founders clearly disgreed with you!

2. Most of us aren't relying on the nonexistent honor of politicians and officials to honor the new amendments on "how things should be" (that seems to be what you're doing, in your prayers or inaction), we're proposing amendments or the repeal of existing amendments (the 16th, the 17th) in order to restore the original system of checks and balances, returning power to the states so we dont have to rely on them doing the right thing. The same goes for those proposing term limits.

3. Being concerned about a possible runaway convention is admirable, but what about equivalent threats to the Constitution occurring right now? WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE A RUNAWAY CONVENTION, REWRITING THE CONSTITUTION, EVERY SUPREME COURT SESSION! And lately, it seems district courts have gotten in on the action; look at what happened yesterday!

Speaking of not reading things, maybe you need to read this, instead of raising the same old, previously addressed, arguments in every thread:
https://www.conventionofstates.com/faq
28 posted on 04/26/2017 6:41:28 AM PDT by Subcutaneous Fishstick Blues
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