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The Bundy verdict, the government, and American justice(Bundyisms)
americanthinker.com ^ | 4/25/2017 | Leesa K. Donner

Posted on 04/25/2017 5:18:50 AM PDT by rktman

At its core, this story is about land rights, ownership, and power. It is a long, complicated, and winding tale that began back in 1989 over a desert tortoise. Designated as an "endangered species," the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) designated "hundreds of thousands of acres of federal land" for conservation, as reported by The Washington Post.

This did not sit well with Cliven Bundy, whose family homesteaded his ranch back in 1877 and called the move a government land grab. As well, others were upset and felt the heavy hand of the federal government on their backs. But it was Mr. Bundy who ultimately became the unmovable object that ignited a militia of freedom fighters out to stop the U.S. government.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: cattleranchers
Many more issues to be raised in further trials. Confusing? Yes to some, clear cut to others. Agree to disagree? Probably not. Have at it if you wish. I do notice that with the YUGE solar panel array outside lost vegas, the desert tortoise issue wasn't an issue. Apparently they were moved to low rent apartments and signs were place around the array prohibiting them from re-entering the area.
1 posted on 04/25/2017 5:18:50 AM PDT by rktman
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1. ONLY THE LOCAL SHERIFF HAS JURISDICTION IN DISPUTES BETWEEN CITIZENS AND THE FEDERAL GOVENMENT...
So why does the BLM have armed thugs and why did the Feds not follow the Constitution...

2. The real deal is that area was also involved with natural resources and deals like URANIUM ONE... and Harry Reid and a project needing access via this land in UTAH...

3. the Feds own half the land out west ....???? WHY
Well in the case of nevada the state let the Feds do it.
Under the Constitution when a territory become as a state the Feds cede the land to the state... and the Feds can keep land necessary to execute their duties enumerated in the Constitution... forts and such...

4. LEVOY FINICUM was murdered by the FBI in another similar situation.
He supported Bundy and was from a ranching background. The issue in the second standoff case was 2 brothers set a backfire and it got out of control. Obama had them charged with TERRORISM AND SENT BACK TO PRISON...

5. The BLM has screwed people out of their land and played politics with it and ;gives themselves big bonuses and perks .... for nothing wasting taxpayer money.

I truly hope TRUMP or designee has time to look at the LAW and the overall situation and straightens this out...

GIVE THE WESTERN FEDERAL LANDS TO THE RIGHTFUL OWNERS ...


2 posted on 04/25/2017 5:38:04 AM PDT by zzwhale (ho2)
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The thing that people don’t realize is there has been a change in the perspective that folks have in regard to BLM land out West. For over a hundred years it was “worthless, arid land” no one wanted. Outside of mining claims where there was real value it was viewed as a “vast waste”. Of very limited value and that limited to ranchers to eke out a living grazing animals and marginably suitable for that.

In recent years, vast spaces which were once essentially infinite, as far as human value, have become a limited resource that now has value. In fact, a great deal of value. I would submit that it is actually this land that underwrites America’s debt (which you may have noticed is astronomical). Gummint HAS TO secure it’s claim to this land or the security of America’s debt is questionable. This is what is driving the behavior of the gummint in regard to folks like Bundy.

Sure, Bundy can be faulted for not realizing that he was willingly “jumping into the gears of the machine” and so should not complain about being ground up by them. But here is the tension that created the mess. It is one thing for folks like Buckley to SAY “STOP” and think one is “standing athwart the path of progressives” but quite another to actually do so, especially when tens of trillions of dollars of real money is on the other side.


3 posted on 04/25/2017 6:12:31 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: zzwhale

Excellent summary. You could have gone on and on, but kept it succinct and accurate.

There is much more. The west, particularly the 12 Western States have labored for years under the burden of not receiving their “public” lands promised at Statehood. Unlike the Eastern States who were able to utilize their public lands to provide revenue for the State and its people the West had half or much more withheld and kept under the thumb of the Federal Government.


4 posted on 04/25/2017 6:22:08 AM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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Free the Bundy’s, educate (and eliminate) the BLM.


5 posted on 04/25/2017 6:50:10 AM PDT by 1_Of_We
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yes, “GIVE THE WESTERN FEDERAL LANDS TO THE RIGHTFUL OWNERS ...”. The BLM is very thuggish and Obama’s hatred of whites who cleared and worked the lands in the west without a percentage point of black help certainly showed who was “boss”, didn’t it? Spain and Mexico did not go into Oregon or very far into northern CA. Too hard to live there. But white Americans did...now they must be punished as the Federal gov decides they didn’t really do anything significant so must leave lands they have raised beef and sheep on that helped feed this nation as it has matured for literally a 100 years. The Hammonds, Bundy’s et al are not terrorists, but if they flip I’ll be on their side.


6 posted on 04/25/2017 8:28:57 AM PDT by Bodega (we are developing less and less common sense...world wide)
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