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Go Ahead And Cheer The Fraud (Healthcare Bill)
Market-Ticker ^ | May 4, 2017 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 05/04/2017 12:40:25 PM PDT by Wolfie

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To: LS

I was a little concerned about this but so many are whining that apparently it is a pretty good realistic bill.


LOL...ditto.


61 posted on 05/04/2017 3:12:27 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: wny
this will different, but just as bad as ocare. and the pubbies will own it


Now that the republicans meddeled with it they own it. If someone dies or gets really sick, they will be blamed.
62 posted on 05/04/2017 4:19:53 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Parroting fake news is highly profitable for some.)
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To: Boomer

LOL every other country on the planet does it that way, as did our hospitals until about 30 years ago. There are still a handful of places in the US that do it and they are way cheaper.


63 posted on 05/04/2017 4:19:55 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: TexasGator
"Then why do you say we need new laws?"

I didn't. I said we needed to undo legislation that exempted healthcare. (Post 4)

64 posted on 05/04/2017 6:14:01 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: TexasGator
"Then why do you say we need new laws?"

I didn't. I said we needed to undo legislation that exempted healthcare. (Post 4)

65 posted on 05/04/2017 6:15:26 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Wolfie

Many people here seem to be happy just because Liberals are mad. They care more about revenge than they do about America, it seems. Get DC out of the business of healthcare and insurance (and education, and medicine, and...)


66 posted on 05/04/2017 6:16:48 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: DannyTN

Car salesmen do it thousands a times a day.


67 posted on 05/04/2017 7:06:38 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: All; 2ndDivisionVet

List of Obamacare Taxes Repealed

Americans for Tax Reform ^ | May 4, 2017 | John Kartch
Posted on 5/4/2017, 5:57:19 PM by 2ndDivisionVet

The American Health Care Act (HR 1628) passed by the House today reduces taxes on the American people by over $1 trillion. The bill abolishes the following taxes imposed by Obama and the Democrat party in 2010 as part of Obamacare:

-Abolishes the Obamacare Individual Mandate Tax which hits 8 million Americans each year.
-Abolishes the Obamacare Employer Mandate Tax. Together with repeal of the Individual Mandate Tax repeal this is a $270 billion tax cut.
-Abolishes Obamacare’s Medicine Cabinet Tax which hits 20 million Americans with Health Savings Accounts and 30 million Americans with Flexible Spending Accounts. This is a $6 billion tax cut.
-Abolishes Obamacare’s Flexible Spending Account tax on 30 million Americans. This is a $20 billion tax cut.
-Abolishes Obamacare’s Chronic Care Tax on 10 million Americans with high out of pocket medical expenses. This is a $126 billion tax cut.
-Abolishes Obamacare’s HSA withdrawal tax. This is a $100 million tax cut.
-Abolishes Obamacare’s 10% excise tax on small businesses with indoor tanning services. This is a $600 million tax cut.
-Abolishes the Obamacare health insurance tax. This is a $145 billion tax cut.
-Abolishes the Obamacare 3.8% surtax on investment income. This is a $172 billion tax cut.
-Abolishes the Obamacare medical device tax. This is a $20 billion tax cut.
-Abolishes the Obamacare tax on prescription medicine. This is a $28 billion tax cut.
-Abolishes the Obamacare tax on retiree prescription drug coverage. This is a $2 billion tax cut.

As a presidential candidate in 2008, Barack Obama had promised repeatedly that he would not raise any tax on any American earning less than $250,000 per year. He broke the promise when he signed Obamacare. With the passage of the House GOP bill, tens of millions of middle income Americans will get tax relief from Obamacare’s long list of tax hikes.

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68 posted on 05/04/2017 8:40:26 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (100+ days without Hilliarly as POTUS! Thank you, President Trump for this reality!)
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To: rb22982

Oh, we could do it the way you suggest, but good luck seeing a doctor or getting that operation as health professionals move on to greener pastures where they can get paid the same as they do now.

You would be cutting the head off the chicken with no eggs in the basket or chics to grow into the next chicken dinner.

Or to use a fable; you would be killing the goose that lays the golden eggs just so you could have one supper.


69 posted on 05/04/2017 8:46:08 PM PDT by Boomer (Stupid is as stupid does and no one does stupid like the left.)
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To: redgolum

My guess is that the GOP who always look for the easy way out will join hands with the Dems and joyfully announce a bipartisan solution. Single payer. At this point and 24 mos on down the road the average American may well be accepting of it.


70 posted on 05/04/2017 10:32:57 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: rb22982

Correct. And looking quite hard for the KEY Anti-Trust campaign promise, to force offerings across state lines.


71 posted on 05/04/2017 10:43:39 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is is the Government Work-Camp)
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To: Boomer

Enforce pricing laws and anti trust laws like every other industry in the country does and every other country on the planet does for this industry and they will not have a choice unless they want another job. This country can’t afford to have healthcare at 20% of GDP (and growing 3x the rate of inflation with no expanded life expectancy) when it historical was 3-4% of GDP.


72 posted on 05/05/2017 1:35:38 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: wny
"this will different, but just as bad as ocare. and the pubbies will own it’"


73 posted on 05/05/2017 3:33:17 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Boomer

Sir,
Respectfully,

That is bovine scat.

I am in the middle of a multi million project with dozens of contractors and I have no idea how many subs.

I am required to get the budget within 10% of the final cost.

You can get estimates, but the medical world doesn’t want to do the work.


74 posted on 05/05/2017 5:10:48 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: TexasGator

There are a lot of things that are considered “horse trades”. No two horses are alike. Therefore the price is not a set uniform price by the seller, it’s negotiated over each horse.

Used cars are certainly that way.

New cars could conceivably be under the price discrimination laws. From manufacturer to dealer probably is covered and explains why there is a set invoice to dealer amount.

Dealers themselves negotiate price with customers. They probably should fall under that category. But clearly it’s not enforced on them.


75 posted on 05/05/2017 9:50:46 AM PDT by DannyTN
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