Posted on 05/12/2017 6:50:09 PM PDT by freedom44
In 1979, after a long campaign of political pressure applied by the Carter administration in the United States, the Shah of Iran fell to the Islamic Revolution, ending a tradition of monarchic rule that had persisted in Iran for thousands of years since the rule of Cyrus the Great. The stage was set for the rise of the Ayatollah, and the establishment of a theocracy in Iran that, today, most Iranians do not even want. But what if none of that had ever happened? While a momentous departure from actual history, it is not nearly so far-fetched as it sounds. It isn't difficult to imagine that, beset by strife as the Shah was at the time, the opposition of a major world power like the United States was the final straw that brought the monarchy to an end, and it is not even clear why President Carter chose to engage in such opposition. While there were some human rights concerns taking place under the Shah, as Carter noted, these pale in comparison to the atrocities committed by the sorts of Islamic extremists that have since risen to power in Iran and found a more conducive environment in the Middle East generally. Let's see what else would have been different had Carter relented, and the Shah remained. With the Islamic Revolution never occurring, Iran under the Shah enters into the 1980's, when Ronald Reagan is elected President in the United States. Always a supporter of Iran in general and the Shah in particular, Reagan continues the close friendship that had long existed between the nations.
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I have been saying that since 1979.
Well thankfully they didn’t turn Commie, or we might have sent our manufacturing base there instead of China.
“Carters luggage was empty. The Shah was in big trouble. Carter didnt help but it wouldnt have mattered.”
Not only was the Shah in big trouble with his own people, he was in big trouble with his own mortality.
Had the revolution not occurred in 1979, the monarchy would have collapsed in 1980 when the Shah died.
Carter did an outstanding job of destroying South Africa, too. A fine, stable country is now a cesspool.
Spot on.
“I have been saying that since 1979.”
The question is not how we would have kept the Shah in power, the question is, how would we have kept the Shah alive?
‘Had the revolution not occurred in 1979, the monarchy would have collapsed in 1980 when the Shah died.”
Maybe.. hard to tell if the Shah could have lived longer had Carter not denied him entrance into the US for medical treatment...
Kennedy lost Cuba
LBJ lost Vietnam
Carter lost Iran
Clinton lost Osama
I see a trend.
Unfortunately, he had cancer. However, peaceful transfer of power within the system that was in place would have been preferable to the islamic revolution, which Carter encouraged.
Anything would be better than what is now, but I don’t think the monarchy would have withstood the death of the Shah.
I think they would have ended up in the same place.
I meant to say, ‘had not Carter delayed (not denied) him entrance into the US for treatment.’
Apparently, the Shah also kept his cancer secret from his doctors and that is usually not a great idea.
Well, probably, as the Ayatollah was gathering his forces.
Yeah, No ship Sherlock!
It is difficult to side with a dead man.
That’s right. Jimmy’s masterful management of foreign affairs destabilized that region for nearly 40 years now. He also give away the Panama Canal without so much as a negotiation to keep it. Then he inserted himself into the North Korean nuclear weapons program situation, gifting the North with the ability to develop nuclear weapons. Then they shared information with Iran.
As if this wasn’t enough, he occasionally toured the world meeting with Marxist dictators. He also prided himself on validating elections where Marxists were involved, always declaring them valid when the Marxists won. Leaving the nation soon after.
Carter, Clinton, and Obama have thoroughly screwed up global dynamics. I’d like to say they alone did so, but our trade with China supported by both parties will lead to massive problems over time.
We’re on a countdown there. It’s just a matter of time.
Just goes to show elections have consequences...Jimbo was elected only because he wasn’t a Republican, and turned out to be a horrible mistake!
The choice wasn’t between a communist and an Islamist in 1953. It was between a Soviet ally and a friendly monarch.
?The choice wasnt between a communist and an Islamist in 1953. It was between a Soviet ally and a friendly monarch.
Fair enough. Never, ever allow islam or any dogma “religion” filth control the weak minds.
When the retards get to believing dogma or filthy mohamhead filth they will eventually need to be eliminated if they don’t suicide first.
Regardless of the historical mythology the article proposes for the Shah, his downfall and the negligence of the Carter Administration in not supporting another "puppet" in place of the Shah was a huge mistake.
In private life, since losing to Reagan, I don't think Carter has been on the correct side of any foreign policy issue.
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