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An Organic Farm Under Threat
https://vimeo.com/216920516 ^ | 11 May 2017

Posted on 05/13/2017 10:18:55 AM PDT by TimeofReason

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To: Yaelle
This is about responsibility and land stewardship. It's also about a landowner that has pissed off his neighbors for some time and apparently refuses to go out in his fields and knock down/pull up weeds. It is a lot of work they don't want to do. After all it's “organic”.

I'm sure this has been going on for some time. Nobody drove by this land, saw a few weeds and immediately threatened to spray his fields. The Roundup threat is likely the last resort of a fed up community and a noxious member of the community that doesn't care about the community he lives in. That has nothing to do with being organic.

You should take a look at a farm where they actually care and love the land that feeds them. It is a beautiful thing, in contrast, I'd like to see a picture of this farm.

Going organic doesn't mean you plant crops and do nothing but wait until harvest. Letting noxious weeds flourish is stupid and detrimental land stewardship that negatively impacts crop returns and family income. The issue is poor land management not the choice of eating Roundup, or not.

61 posted on 05/13/2017 9:30:21 PM PDT by zek157
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To: Norseman

True statement. The clover also fixes nitrogen in the soil for other plants to use so you don’t need fertilizer. Much more to going organic than buying land and watering it in the hope that something grows.


62 posted on 05/13/2017 9:33:16 PM PDT by zek157
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To: mywholebodyisaweapon

“Ever eaten a thistle?”

Milk Thistle seeds have a compound in them that actually repairs liver damage in humans. People who would’ve otherwise died from some form of severe liver damage, when placed on a treatment utilizing an extract of the active ingredients found in Milk Thistle, have had their livers rejuvenated back to fully functioning healthy organs. It’s definitely a ‘miracle’ herb, and works better than any pharmaceutical.


63 posted on 05/13/2017 9:35:42 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: mywholebodyisaweapon
Ever eaten a thistle? With really heavy gloves and a good knife, flick or peel the prickles off and you have a great vegetable if you catch it before the flowers open. Really good eating.

What's it like? Mini artichokes?

64 posted on 05/13/2017 9:46:23 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: TimeofReason
Why does he allow weeds? Not only will they spread to neighbor's fields but they can cause crop loss.

You have to remove them by hand or hoe/rototill the crops and use mulch to keep them from coming back.

if that doesn't work, you plow them under and replant.

we grow organic rice here in the Philippines... you know all those wet rice paddies? It was for weed control.

65 posted on 05/13/2017 10:41:06 PM PDT by LadyDoc
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To: TimeofReason

an organic farmer should already know,

1. you keep weeds cut below 6 inches height for fire prevention and to eliminate pollen spread, and
2. you get rid of weeds by spraying them with vinegar when the ambient temp outside is between 70-90degrees, and
3. to prevent anything at all growing for a year or two on fallow fields, you add salt to the vinegar

organic farming doesn’t mean you get to pollute your neighbor’s fields with weed pollen and seeds


66 posted on 05/14/2017 2:13:40 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: zek157

So you meant to write “an additional clover ground crop” then, rather than a “close” ground crop, right? That makes more sense. Non-organic farmers often practice crop rotation and grow various crops that are then plowed under in the spring to augment soil nutrients.

I’m aware that a lot goes into organic gardening, but it does sound like that 2000 acre farm is creating some issues with their current practices. Sometimes the truth lies in the middle somewhere, but discussions nowadays don’t seem to gravitate toward the middle ground. Everything is all or none, it seems.


67 posted on 05/14/2017 7:42:13 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: Norseman

Yeah, It is tilled in.

I would like to have seen the actual farm in question in the video.


68 posted on 05/14/2017 10:33:05 AM PDT by zek157
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To: thecodont

I haven’t tried the flowers. I hear that they are like artichokes.

Tiger’s Eye said it already, so I can’t add much. If you get the stalk before the bloom opens and strip it of thorns with a knife and heavy gloves, it’s crisp but not stringy like celery and has a slightly sweetish taste. They can also be peeled, which does away with the thorns but also the whitish skin that tastes OK. I’d hate to injest one of those thistle thorns, so I usually just peel the stalk for safety’s sake.

It’s a shocker. But if I wait until the flower opens, then the stalk will be stringier and stronger tasting - more like stew ingredients. I suppose if a person waits too long then the plant might be good for cordage...


69 posted on 05/19/2017 6:30:28 AM PDT by mywholebodyisaweapon (Thank God for President Trump)
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To: TigersEye

That tells me all I need to know about your agenda. This company is the third largest producer of organic produce in the country.


So what is my agenda in your mind?

I know many organic farms and they are more concerned about weeds than traditional farms. Not only for themselves but for their neighbors.

In the rural environment, good fences make good neighbors and good weed control makes good neighbors.


70 posted on 05/21/2017 7:01:48 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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