ashes to ashes
Posted on 05/22/2017 12:58:21 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
For decades, most people arranging a funeral have faced a simple choice - burial or cremation?
But in parts of the US and Canada a third option is now available - dissolving bodies in an alkaline solution. It will arrive in the UK soon.
Its technical name is alkaline hydrolysis, but it is being marketed as “green cremation”.
So long, Robert Klink
Robert J Klink spent his life near water.
When he was growing up in the 1950s, his parents had a cabin on South Long Lake, in Minnesota, the land of 10,000 lakes. He learned to fish and hunt near the water’s edge.
It became a lifelong passion, and for many years he and his second wife Judi Olmsted kept a couple of cabin cruisers on the Saint Croix River. Bob would fish and shoot ducks, which he prepared and ate by himself.
Shortly before Bob’s death in March from colon and liver cancer, Olmsted approached her local funeral home, Bradshaw Celebration of Life Center in Stillwater.
She told the people there that her husband wanted to be cremated when his time came.
She was surprised to learn that Bradshaw’s offered two types of cremation: the one that everyone knows about, involving fire, and a new kind, which uses water.
A pamphlet explained that this “gentle, eco-friendly alternative to flame-based cremation” used an alkaline solution made with potassium hydroxide to reduce the body to a skeleton.
“At first, I was thinking, ‘Well, I don’t know about that,’” Olmsted says.
But the more I thought about it, the more I thought that it was the best way to go.”
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...
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THe precusor to Soylent Green?
OK, then what do you do with the skeleton? Take it home to Fido to make dog treats for him or just hang it in the closet and take it out for Halloween.
I love shooting holes in Liberals and their “eco-friendly” BS ideas. What happens to the skeleton? Does it get buried in a coffin the morticians sell you (after you paid for the hydrolysis)? Or cremated? Or donated to a medical school?
As for me, I’ve decided on burial at sea. Then, I can feed the fish.
With all of that caustic material, I cannot imagine that this method is more environmentally friendly than cremation.
What is the pH of the remains once they have been liquefied? Won’t the liquid need to be neutralized prior to disposal down the drain?
I prefer cremation, and my ashes scattered to the sea. The Bible says ‘dust to dust and ashes to ashes’. I don’t know how chemicals and being dissolved would fit into that scripture? Seems the use of those chemicals would be more dangerous, than cancer caused by Monsanto roundup. Just sayin...
However, the family must follow instructions of the deceased, and some cremation requests have ended up in barrels of dissolving chemicals, which means installing the body into such a container, and it sounds like a disgusting thing to me. Because in cremation the body is at more than enough temperature to take care of the bones. The body used to be wrapped in cloth and laid on table, and then the table went into the crematory to the fire! Civilized, not barbaric.
They keep missing a fourth choice. Charleton Heston starred in a movie about it. The money quote from the movie was, “Soylent green is people.”
My father-in-law was dead set against cremating because he said it was pagan, and when the second coming occurred you would have a problem being restored. Well the origins are pagan as far back as we can determine. As for the restoration of the atoms in the body at the second coming I really don’t know if that’s even talked about in depth among various scriptures. After hearing those comments by my father-in-law I sat there in contemplation... what about people in war who are blown to bits, are they not going to be restored after the second coming? And what about people that are buried at Sea and then eaten by crabs and then crapped all over the ocean floor? Are they not going to be restored after the second coming? So I finally came to the conclusion that it really doesn’t matter because we do not know enough about the great mystery that will unfold at some point in time only the Lord knows when; not even the angels know... so it’s beyond our comprehension. And I strongly feel that whatever happens to your body will probably not matter because it just won’t be an issue. I sometimes think that people just want a stone to go visit for year or two and then the stones languish un-visited until, over time... it erodes to sand and id washed away. Earth Abides, as it was made to do so.
ashes to ashes
“This person was just so disgusted by it, didn’t even want to have the conversation,” she recalls, “and the other person was like, ‘For me, that’s like a final spa treatment.’
or...
WE’RE DRINKING IN PEOPLE!!!
(Shamelessly nicked, and modified from Soylant Green)
“alkaline hydrolysis is also called base catylized hydrolysis, or making soap”
You know... artisan soaps sell quite well at flea markets and roadside vegetable markets.
Dissolve your loved one and flush him down the sewer. Seems inappropriate.
Not that it matters unless one believes in literal physical resurrection, but Sky Burial, wrapped in blankets and placed on a secluded platform in a forest, surrounded by some special personal effects, to let nature take back what it gave, is the way I’d like my own soul conveyance to be disposed of once I’m done with it. Locked up and buried in a ridiculously expensive box, or uselessly incinerated to base carbon, much less dissolved into a goo, just don’t appeal.
Having just gone through this with my MIL.......
The Catholic Church, Jewish faith and Muslim have either doctrine or hard and fast rules against cremation......
The Catholic Curch recently relaxed the rule (not doctrine-which was implemented in the 1800’s) regarding cremation allowing it.....
However, the Catholic church does require that the ashes be treated the same as a whole body, not to be spread, on a mantle or made into jewelry...
The remains should receive a full funeral mass and then be buried or entombed on consecrated ground.....
I would imagine that dissolving the body would not be approved as acceptable.....
Just don’t do it in your upstairs bathtub
My father wanted to be stuffed and set on the couch with a remote in his hand. The mortuary wouldn’t do it.
You really need a suitable receptacle.
For those who didn't read the article, the bones are pulverized and transmitted to the bereaved as the ashes would from a traditional cremation.
The Family’s been doing this for as long as sulfuric acid has been available in 55 gallon drums. New Jersey’s the leading state.
Exactly! It could be a lucrative option for the funeral parlor! Convert your deceased loved one into a bio-friendly product!
The marketing ideas just write themselves!
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