Posted on 05/24/2017 1:06:36 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments
It took school and police officials just a few minutes to extinguish 16-year-old Corey Walgren's promising future. All they did was utter two words: child pornography.
Corey, a junior at Naperville North High School in Naperville, Illinois, was a perfectly normal, social, good-looking 16-year-old. He was an honor roll student with dreams of attending a Big Ten college. He had typical interests for a teenager boy: hockey, fishing, and, yes, girls.
Corey committed suicide in January, just hours after a school resource officer confronted him about an alleged illegal item on his cell phone—a recording of Corey having sex with a female classmate. The girl had informed a dean at the school that she believed Corey had played the recording for his friends (it's not clear whether he did), which prompted the authorities to summon Corey to the principal's office. They called his mother and told both of them that Corey was being investigated for possession of child pornography.
Corey left the meeting, headed to a nearby parking garage, and jumped.
That's all according to a heartbreaking story in The Chicago Tribune, which obtained police records of the case and spoke with Corey's parents about his death.
"I think they wanted to scare him straight," Corey's mother, Maureen Walgren, told the Tribune. "Instead, they scared him to death."
(Excerpt) Read more at reason.com ...
>>Play Stupid Games, Win Stupid Prizes.
That gets used so much here, we should just turn it into an acronym.
“Everyone is responsible for their actions but minors are called minors under the law for a reason. They don’t reason like adults. Most can’t reason like adults. With the exception of some heinous crimes the law shouldn’t treat them like adults.”
In our justice system, the line between adult and juvenile or mens rea is blurred and it not dependent on the severity of the crime. There are far more important factors.
It’s not the crime, it’s the state of mind.
I worked with a 16 year old kid that murdered his parents and siblings.
I worked with another 16 year old that molested his sister and had sex with the family dog and set it on fire.
The former was treated as an adult, the latter was treated as a juvenile.
If I had to pick one of those kids to go free, it would be the kid that murdered his family.
I would leave them all locked up.
OK
OK?
You believe what you want. I don’t believe they have a moment’s remorse. They are probably commiserating with each other and providing support to each other so they don’t have to feel any remorse.
The excuse making (and enabling) needs to stop.
You can't make stuff like that up. LOL
He’s not kidding. There used to be a large contingent of “cops are scum” freepers here at FR. They’ve kind of shut up and have gone away. This goober is a newbie. Perhaps a retread.
“I would leave them all locked up.”
I would too.
But, but the child/animal abuser is far more dangerous and far sicker.
“There used to be a large contingent of “cops are scum” freepers here at FR.”
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You’re not kidding——and lord knows I locked horns with them many times.
I doubt that some people on this thread even know what the legal definition of murder is.
Insanity !
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“How about sleeping around and allowing her partner to record the deed? Disgusting.”
It’s not against the law for a 16 year old girl to have sex.
We don’t know if she was aware the tape was being made.
She apparently was not busted with child porn on her phone.
He was.
“Was she in possession of the tape?”
We don’t know.
If she was, she handed over to the authorities and was not charged.
This has already been covered but, yes, it is.
FTA:But under Illinois's age of consent laws, one person under the age of 17 can be charged with sexual abuse if he had sexual contact with another person under the age of 17, even if they're both the same age. Two 16-year-olds in a fully consensual relationship could be charged with abusing each other.
From the link in the article...
Actually, any voluntary sexual activity between two 16 year olds could put both of them on the sex offender registration list. Such sexual activity is a crime for which both could be prosecuted, if there was mutual sexual conduct because the “age of consent” has not been reached.
“In the end, a lovely young man was essentially murdered.”
No, he made some big mistakes, likely committed a felony and elected to end his life.
Murder? No of course not. Look at the replies on this thread. Way too many people don’t even know the definition of child porn. There is a video of two children having sex. And yet people are claiming this is not child porn?
Murder? No of course not. Look at the replies on this thread. Way too many people don’t even know the definition of child porn. There is a video of two children having sex. And yet people are claiming this is not child porn?
I know. But I don’t think it is that. It seems like another driving force besides fame. It is this weird self-voyeristic thing that seems to appeal to a generation of people who are used to seeing everything on a screen, including themselves. I mean, in my generation, if I saw a video of myself just hanging out at a party or something, it was completely weird.
You just didn’t see movies of yourself, and when you did, it didn’t look like you. That isn’t how it is now.
As for the celebrity thing, last year I walked by the television as my wife was watching (I don’t watch except for some sports) and there was a woman on screen being filmed. I thought she was kind of attractive with dark hair and dark eyes, but what was odd to me was the way she was the focus of what they were showing. It wasn’t like an interview or a documentary, it was some reality show. It caught my eye, and I watched for about 30 seconds, and asked my wife “Who is that woman with the dark hair?”
She turns and looks at me, rolls her eyes and says “It’s Kim Kardashian”. She knows I relish playing the stereotype of someone out of touch with popular culture, and it is entirely true I mostly am out of cultural touch for going on about twenty years.
About 20 years, I stopped absorbing current popular culture (for the most part) and began expanding my interests in music, movies, and literature by looking back in time. Listening to more jazz, big band, and classical. Watching movies I had never seen, my favorite now is “The Best Years of Their Lives” (which got Best Picture in 1946) and reading books like “Witness” and stuff like Grant’s Memoirs.
And some things are odd-I went to a college graduation a few weeks ago, and while it is true that some things are timeless, there are things that are different...the thing that stuck out to me was...the decoration of their mortar boards. I had never seen that before, and while the strict traditionalist in me scoffed at it, there was another part of it that fascinated me. I wanted to see a collage of a picture of every mortar board. I found myself craning my neck the whole time to see what was on them.
Point is...I knew full well how out of touch with much of current culture I was, which wasn’t a shock at all, just interesting.
I was always someone who advocated (and still do professionally) for technology, was an early adopter of stuff. First person with a CD player..digital camera, iPhone, PC, etc. but funny I was the last person I knew to get a cell phone. Heck, my parents had cell phones before I did, and they have both passed on.
But now, when I drive by a crowd of people, and everyone has their head tilted down gazing at a screen they hold in their hand...I feel like I was wrong. I guess that is just what getting older does.
I know it is why I look at this stuff and it seems insane, because...there was a time when it would be insane, and I stopped being the frog in the water that is heating up. (culturally speaking, that is)
Illinois Age Of Consent Law:
720 ILCS 5/12-15) Sec. 12-15. Criminal sexual abuse. ...(c) The accused commits criminal sexual abuse if he or she commits an act of sexual penetration or sexual conduct with a victim who was at least 13 years of age but under 17 years of age and the accused was less than 5 years older than the victim.
Ok.
But they don’t bust 16 year old kids for sex.
Precisely!
It’s not against the law for a 16 year old girl to have sex.
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I did not say that it is. My point was that it is disgusting, wrong behavior. She is not blameless.
Sure, child porn is illegal and needs to be prosecuted.
However, a 16 year old boy with a phone video of his
G-friend and him having sex certainly begs for some
legal sanctions but it won’t be prosecuted or treated
the same as a 32 year old pervert sharing pix of naked
pre-teen girls and IF that is what the resource officer
intentionally led the kid to believe then he needs some
more training.
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