While I agree with her, 100%, there will be those who are offended by the inference that “college material” implies a certain level of intelligence.
She could have worded it in a way to indicate that various education and training avenues need to be open, based on the interests and aptitudes, etc....
JMHO
HR people put unofficial caps on wages then they complain they cant find anyone. Wages pretty much suck and are flat.
And there are some who have to be nursed through high school and they still go to college. And once there, the pressure is on the professors not to flunk anyone. Only tenured professors care to buck that policy.
They are trying to spin this as if she said something insulting. To suggest my kid may not be the type of person gullible enough to go in to interminable debt for the pleasure of being indoctrinated with leftist dogma and deprived of skills or knowledge that could lead to gainfull employment could be considered a compliment!
A lot of college programs aren’t college material.
My high school had a guy whose job was to help kids apply for college. He made a similar statement...whoa did he get blowback.
Absolutely true.
My daughter wisely chose vocational training. She never would have made it through four years of college.
Most universities already have a tech program. Virtually everyone who graduates with a B.S. in chemistry, biology or physics gets a job as a tech.
All very nice, but not the government’s business. Just get us out of the student loan business and let the private sector sort it out, thank you.
She’s right. One example...the construction industry relies heavily on trade workers. The millennials don’t want these jobs because they’ll get hot or may have to be exposed to adverse weather conditions.
Bew hew.
The older generation of tradesmen/people will retire....then what?
Our universities are full of students who have no business being there, particularly if funded by student loans. Starbucks really doesn’t need more college-trained baristas. They will amass debt they can’t repay and many will never have a self-sustaining job.
I want the Taxpayer Accountability Bill to be passed.
I want a FULL accounting of EVERY tax dollar paid....whether it be to free college (who gets/and why), welfare, etc.
Electricians, plumbers, and in general all trade's apprentices have to work during the day and go to school at night to learn their trade. Most college kids probably would fail a course in the National Electrical Code.
The ASE certified technicians who work on your car have to pass a battery of grueling exams on the various subsystems of an automobile. The complexity of current braking systems alone on automobiles would be a graduate level course at university.,
Welders have to have extremely good vision, a steady hand an the ability to flawlessly repeat day after day their technique. You have to be as good at 4:30 pm as you are at 8:00 am. Your welding exams are tests to destruction, if your welds are bad, it will show in an unambiguous way. They don't grade welders "on a curve"
I've named a couple of trades, but in general it applies to all trades. Punctuality, respect for others, and a work ethic are requirements. You can't work at a trade a roll out of bed at the crack of noon. Show up late, disrespect others, you are fired. No discussion. No appeal.
Perhaps a better, and truthful, way of saying it is that college is not for everyone. People need to figure out what it is they want to do in life, and then determine whether they can earn a living doing it. If so, great. If not, that is what we call a hobby.
As a side note, many do very well in college, but come out with nothing marketable to show for it. English, History, Art History and the dreaded Psychology degrees are, for the most part, a waste of effort. These degrees do show that a person is capable of learning, but what is learned is pretty useless in the world.
I should know. My undergraduate degree was in French and Education. I taught school for 4 years, then decided I might like to actually earn a living. So back to grad school it was. I am now nearing retirement with a marketable, but deplorable to many, JD degree.
The battle between technical-trade-votech and junior-community-4 year college has been going on since the 1970s and probably long before that.
In the 1970s community college development moved into high gear. Most cities of any size developed community college systems. The idea was that localized community colleges could provide a basis for those planning a 4-year degree as well as those desiring technical training.
Of course, a lot of the decision-making had to do with the social influence of how students saw themselves. Basically, PC was being introduced. There was the perception of a negative connotation for those choosing vocational education over regular college.
In the mid 1960s it was typical for universities to have ‘flunk-out’ courses designed to weed out incoming freshmen who really did not belong in a university. Western Civilization, Freshman English, College Algebra and Biology were typically known as ‘flunk-out’ courses. Incoming freshmen classes of 800 were reduced to about 200 after 4 years. That was by design.
If any skill, intelligence or socially redeeming human characteristic was involved in “college material”, why do so many in congress seem to have a degree?
I was wondering if this would be picked up for maximal exploit by the MSM. Just The Hill for now but we will see. I was hoping since it was the weekend it would get buried in the doldrums of the weekend. I cringed when I heard her say it and noted she quickly added the part about some not wanting to be saddled with debt also, before Judge Janine had a chance to react (although I don’t think she would have pounced on that like some MSM lackey would have). She’s lucky she didn’t say that someplace like CBS or MSNBC; she would have been excoriated. But now The Hill is trying to resurrect it from the weekend news hole.
It’s clear listening to the interview she misspoke when she used the phrase “not all are college material”. She meant it as she then clarified, that simply some don’t want to be saddled with debt and know that their talents lie elsewhere. There’s no shame in trade work or other work that doesn’t take a college degree to do, but unfortunately our society as all but stigmatized such people and work.
Hopefully just The Hill will be the only ones talking about this today. This doesn’t need to be added to the mountain of crap that gets slung at the administration daily intended only to distract from a conservative agenda not to actually serve any common good or knowledge.
We shall see. Depends how slow a news day it is today I guess.
That alone will make you much more employable and your skills better. Most legitimate employers who need good employees and pay better wages require drug tests.
She’s right.
My daughter’s best friend quickly determined that college was not for her. She dropped out and enrolled in a welding class. She is doing extremely well.