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To: JimSEA
The calculation of odds assumes the creation of life in its present form. The first life would have been very much simpler. Further, Prior to life, biochemistry produces complex products, and the products themselves interact in complex ways. For example, complex organic molecules are observed to form in the conditions that exist in space, and it is possible that they played a role in the formation of the first life.

Those complex products interacting in complex ways are not alive - to quote Bones from Star Trek, "They're dead Jim". And it's not as simple as some chemicals interacting here on earth or in space.

Look, we know DNA has the following

1. Functional Information
2. Encoder
3. Error Correction
4. Decoder

This is a big problem for a purely naturalistic explanation for how life arose. You have information in a symbolic representation and a reading frame code. But beyond this, a formalization of semantic closure would need to be in place prior to the first cell. This cannot just happen by accident.

132 posted on 06/15/2017 5:06:23 PM PDT by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse O'Leary)
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To: Heartlander

“You have information in a symbolic representation and a reading frame code. But beyond this, a formalization of semantic closure would need to be in place prior to the first cell.”

Reading frame code is clear, but the rest if it...?

But could you say the other parts in English. Eg what is “formalization of semantic closure”?


169 posted on 06/15/2017 7:33:56 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Heartlander

I agree in part. The condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death.


182 posted on 06/15/2017 8:22:16 PM PDT by JimSEA
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