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Now The USAF Wants to Cut A-10 Squadrons and Stop Re-Winging The Fleet
The WarZone ^ | June 9, 2017 | JOSEPH TREVITHICK

Posted on 06/16/2017 11:38:17 AM PDT by huldah1776

Not only has the fight not been won, but the Air Force's new arguments sound a lot like the old ones.

As more details emerge regarding the U.S. Air Force’s plans for the A-10 warthog in the 2018 fiscal year and beyond, it has become clear that the service’s apparent promise to maintain the entire remaining fleet of hardy attack aircraft was highly conditional and entirely temporary. The details come as the low- and slow flying planes continue to prove their worth in the fight against ISIS in Iraq and Syria. Sadly, none of this is really surprising.

On June 7, 2017, two senior Air Force officials told the House Armed Services Committee that they were only planning on keeping at least six squadrons of A-10s through 2030. This stood in stark contrast to written statements from both the service and the Pentagon when it unveiled its portion of President Trump’s Fiscal Year 2018 budget in May 2017. Overview briefings stated, without the apparently necessary caveats, that the entire fleet of more than 280 aircraft across nine combat-coded squadrons would be “fully funded” for at least the next five years.

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As it turns out, the Air Force only requested money to “fully fund” the operations and maintenance costs – day-to-day expenses that include things like payroll, fuel, and basic preventive maintenance – associated with flying the A-10s. The service then shunted a request for money to replace the wings on more than 100 of the jets into its so-called “Unfunded Priorities List,” a wish-list separate from the budget proposal with items it hopes Congress might consider paying for if at all possible.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: a10; usaf
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To: huldah1776

They’ve been trying to kill the A-10 since it was in development. It was supposed to cut a lot more than that this year, until they didn’t. I’ll believe they’re cutting the A-10 when they actually start getting moved next door.


41 posted on 06/16/2017 12:36:38 PM PDT by discostu (You are what you is, and that's all it is, you ain't what you're not, so see what you got.)
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To: huldah1776

Can someone post a good video short of a two ship A-10s flying?


42 posted on 06/16/2017 12:38:00 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Mariner

Dream on. A B-1 is an astonishingly bad choice for support of ground troops.


43 posted on 06/16/2017 12:41:11 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: huldah1776
There is an easy solution here.

Rather than replacing the A-10 (which pilots and troops on the ground JUST LOVE!)...

...let's replace the " two senior Air Force officials " with some less-senior-however-more-practical-and-mission-connected Air Force officials.

44 posted on 06/16/2017 12:42:06 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except for convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: huldah1776

Unless someone is getting kickbacks from manufacturers of new aircraft, I cannot imagine why the USAF hates and for many years has hated the A-10. It is 40 y/o, but it is still a great aircraft that gets the job done far better than anything designed in the decades since then.


45 posted on 06/16/2017 12:52:32 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: null and void

Or the Army! The Marines already have some Harriers left and FA-18s of its own, the Army has no fixed wing ground attack aircraft.


46 posted on 06/16/2017 12:54:54 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: huldah1776

how about dronify the a-10 (even if it means a new airplane)?


47 posted on 06/16/2017 1:01:20 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: huldah1776

Pilots are just too valuable.

They are so valuable that they should never have to be in danger to enemy forces.

In order to protect our pilots, we must use drones for all combat and reconnaissance missions.

The Army should control those drones as their Soldiers are not as valuable as pilots.


48 posted on 06/16/2017 1:04:41 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: huldah1776

Fine.

Give all the Warthogs to the Army - they will put them to great use......guarantee it........


49 posted on 06/16/2017 1:15:23 PM PDT by Arlis
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To: Mariner
"A B-1b flying at 50,000 ft can do more damage with precision weapons...to precise targets on the ground...than a squadron of A-10’s."

And how many sorties a day can a B-1b fly from 2000 miles away?

50 posted on 06/16/2017 1:19:44 PM PDT by armourenthusiast (Trumperific)
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To: huldah1776
It's the Air Force motto - "Aim High"

My departed father, may he RIP, flew 50 missions in a P-51. He is rolling in his grave. The way he destroyed the enemy was by aiming to hit, not aiming high.

51 posted on 06/16/2017 1:22:21 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No one becomes a general via the A-10. That’s the problem in a nutshell.

That's fixable. Have the Air Force evaluation committee for officers to be considered for general be composed of Army combat commanders, who will select primarily on the basis of how well the AF guy is committed to close air support.

52 posted on 06/16/2017 1:28:55 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But not an aircraft that needs a runway and the basics of LIMITED unimproved capability.

Logistics and supply is well beyond Army and Marine fixed-wing capability. . .see previous threads for a repeat of our discussions.


53 posted on 06/16/2017 1:32:11 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Flick Lives
"The A10 is too simple, rugged, reliable, and cheap. The higher ups and defense contractors will never get rich off of that plane." Glad to see some people get it.
General Fired For 'Treason' Rant Against A-10 Supporters

The two-star general who told officers they would be "committing treason" by advocating to Congress that the A-10 should be kept in service has been fired and reprimanded, Air Combat Command announced on Friday.

The military blog John Q Public first reported that Maj. Gen. James Post made the comments in January at Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada, prompting the Air Force Inspector General's Office to look into the matter.

The IG found that Post did use the word "treason" during his remarks to more than 300 airmen at the Jan. 10 Tactics Review Board, an Air Combat Command news release says.

"The IG report surmised that Post's 'choice of words had the effect of attempting to prevent some members from lawfully communicating with Congress,' which is a violation of the U.S. Code and DoD Directives, whether that was his intention or not," the news release says.

As a result, Gen. Hawk Carlisle, head of Air Combat Command, has removed Post as vice commander of Air Combat Command and issued Post a letter of reprimand, the news release says.

54 posted on 06/16/2017 1:35:02 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: huldah1776

Trump promised to rebuild the military and give us a 355 ship Navy. Like the wall, the money for those things is no where in sight.


55 posted on 06/16/2017 1:41:20 PM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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To: CriticalJ

Wow. Interesting link. Amazing how the A-10 Warthog seems to push some of the brass over the edge. It’s like WDS!


56 posted on 06/16/2017 1:49:36 PM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: NorthMountain

How many members of the UAV squadrons are on flight orders or receiving flight pay?


57 posted on 06/16/2017 2:02:50 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (He is leading us in Making America Great Again!)
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To: huldah1776

Gotta get the funds for all of those gender reassignment surgeries from SOMEwhere...!


58 posted on 06/16/2017 2:07:18 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (12:01 PM 1/20/2017,,,The end of an error.)
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To: huldah1776

Move the A-10 fleet to the Army. Problem solved.


59 posted on 06/16/2017 2:18:18 PM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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To: Flick Lives

They have brought back into service the OV-10 BRONCO Turbo Prop from 50 years ago to give dirt naps to ISSA in the ME.


60 posted on 06/16/2017 3:09:25 PM PDT by goodtomato (I'm really, really blessed!)
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