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St. Louis Confederate memorial removal temporarily halted
STL Today (St. Louis Post Dispatch) ^
| June 19, 2017
| AP News
Posted on 06/19/2017 2:15:05 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll
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This monument is not going down easily.
To: Da Bilge Troll
Try it with Grant’s tomb, and the whole system is cooked.
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posted on
06/19/2017 2:18:13 PM PDT
by
Bogie
To: Da Bilge Troll
Is there a group pushing the city into this?
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posted on
06/19/2017 2:19:03 PM PDT
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Ray76
(DRAIN THE SWAMP)
To: Da Bilge Troll
I’m from NYC and this is bull ####.
Should have never let them take the FIRST statue down ANYWHERE.
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posted on
06/19/2017 2:19:50 PM PDT
by
dp0622
(The Left should know that if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
To: Da Bilge Troll
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posted on
06/19/2017 2:22:56 PM PDT
by
PROCON
(The Paris Accord was an attempt to get America to sign onto the One World Religion.)
To: Da Bilge Troll
The left in this country is no different than the Taliban in Afghanistan, destroying historical monuments that don't fit their ideology.
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posted on
06/19/2017 2:37:58 PM PDT
by
cabbieguy
("I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up")
To: Ray76
"Is there a group pushing the city into this?" Newly elected democRat mayor and BLM, of course.
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posted on
06/19/2017 2:39:42 PM PDT
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Da Bilge Troll
(Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
To: Da Bilge Troll
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posted on
06/19/2017 2:45:44 PM PDT
by
Ray76
(DRAIN THE SWAMP)
To: Da Bilge Troll
Actually St louis is not a good place for a Confederate monument as the city was a stronghold for Unionists during the Civil War. In fact, St louis kept Missouri in the Union. Southern Missouri is a far better place for Confederate monuments.
To: Bogie
"Try it with Grants tomb, and the whole system is cooked." Don't forget Lewis and Clark began their trip here -- and took a slave with them.
Plus, the Gateway Arch itself is a monument to stealing Indian land!
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posted on
06/19/2017 2:46:18 PM PDT
by
Da Bilge Troll
(Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
To: Da Bilge Troll
Crazy Dillon Roof shoots up a church prayer meeting, and we need to remove all the Confederate monuments. A crazed Bernie supporter shoot up a Republican gathering and it’s Trump’s fault.
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posted on
06/19/2017 2:47:13 PM PDT
by
Fido969
(IN!)
To: Da Bilge Troll
It isn't even rational that blacks want memories of the Civil War and slavery removed. They're testimony to what some of their ancestors endured, and that they persevered. It's in their DNA...the strength, endurance and survival skills slaves had to have. Besides that the blues, baseball and a tradition in the arts were all positively impacted by the Civil War and slavery. The message should be "we're survivors and stronger for it". Instead they're erasing that legacy.
I don't hear Irish people demanding that museums celebrating the industrial revolution be destroyed because their ancestors were indentured servants. My 25% Irish says I want to know all I can about that.
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posted on
06/19/2017 2:48:38 PM PDT
by
grania
(Deplorable and Proud of It!)
To: Eternal_Bear
"St louis kept Missouri in the Union." Actually, Missouri did secede. The legislature assembled a quorum in Springfield and the governor signed it.
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06/19/2017 2:50:35 PM PDT
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Da Bilge Troll
(Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
To: Da Bilge Troll
Well, the Indians were big on slavery, back in the days before big money, that is.
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posted on
06/19/2017 2:53:21 PM PDT
by
Bogie
To: Eternal_Bear
Southern Missouri is a far better place for Confederate monuments.
Actually, southern Missouri was not a natural place for slavery—think Ozarks. Central and Northern Missouri were more suitable for slave-based agriculture. That said, there is a push in Cape Girardeau (I don’t know how big a push, just a letter in the paper) demanding that our little Confederate memorial stone be removed from view. It sits in the courthouse park next to a much larger statue of a Union soldier.
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posted on
06/19/2017 2:56:49 PM PDT
by
hanamizu
To: hanamizu
American Taliban. Erasing American history one memorial at a time.
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posted on
06/19/2017 3:00:11 PM PDT
by
Ray76
(DRAIN THE SWAMP)
To: Da Bilge Troll
Can we just remove the leftists instead?
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posted on
06/19/2017 3:05:33 PM PDT
by
fwdude
(Democrats have not been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.)
To: dp0622
Thank you!
My ancestors resting in their Confederate graves thank you!
To: Eternal_Bear
Actually St louis is not a good place for a Confederate monument as the city was a stronghold for Unionists during the Civil War. In fact, St louis kept Missouri in the Union.
True. The German population was especially loyal to the union, and this made them unpopular with Confederate sympathizers. But for the Germans, Missouri might well have seceded.
Southern Missouri is a far better place for Confederate monuments.
There were a lot of Confederate supporters in the boot heel of southeast Missouri. But even more further north and west along the Missouri. You might think it was too far north for slavery, but it wasn't. It also had a lot to do with where people had come from.
Harry Truman's family in northeastern Missouri were Confederate sympathizers. Jesse James came from nearby and carried out his private war even after Appomattox.
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posted on
06/19/2017 3:08:08 PM PDT
by
x
To: x
I should have said “northwestern Missouri.” But it’s that counterintuitive that there should have been secessionist sentiment that far from Dixie.
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06/19/2017 3:09:48 PM PDT
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x
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