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Donald Trump: Senate Obamacare Replacement ‘Going to Be Negotiated
breitbart.com ^ | 22 Jun 2017 | by CHARLIE SPIERING

Posted on 06/22/2017 1:15:40 PM PDT by johnk

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To: sargon

> You’re staying true to form by indulging your usual Trump-bashing impulses.

HA! You don’t know what you’re talking about.


41 posted on 06/22/2017 5:14:33 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Ray76
> You’re staying true to form by indulging your usual Trump-bashing impulses.
HA! You don’t know what you’re talking about.

JMHO from personal observation...

42 posted on 06/22/2017 5:38:14 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: Magnum44

The key there is “without restrictive *federal* regulation.” The states are very jealous about *their* regulation of insurance companies. Which varies tremendously between states.

“State regulation of insurance provides a major source of state revenue. In 2000, states collected more than $10.4 billion in revenues from insurance sources. Of this amount, $880 million — roughly 8.4 percent — went to regulate the business of insurance while the remaining $9.6 billion went to state general funds for other purposes.

“State systems are accessible and accountable to the public and sensitive to local social and economic conditions. State regulation has proven that it effectively protects consumers and ensures that promises made by insurers are kept. Insurance regulation is structured around several key functions, including company licensing, producer licensing, product regulation, market conduct, financial regulation and consumer services.”


43 posted on 06/22/2017 5:42:46 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Baizuo" A derogatory term the Chinese are using to describe America's naive "White Left")
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To: 9YearLurker
Somehow he seems impervious to the importance of the free market in this 15% of our economy, and instead seems to want to prove his healthcare Santa Claus bona fides.

President Trump has repeatedly mentioned the free market with respect to this process, and, furthermore, wasn't the House Freedom Caucus supposed to be the ones who were the guardians of the conservatives on the House side? Didn't they insist on free market features? Or were their "Yes" votes a sell-out?

In any event, the "holdouts" at the moment are the equivalent of the Senate version of the HFC (Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and a couple of others), so can't we count of them to make sure such considerations are incorporated?

We have to be realistic about the magnitude of the Republican majorities in both the House and the Senate. It will take several cycles of the election of pro-Trump legislators before anything ideal could be done.

Just as the House did, I'm sure that some will want to make the perfect the enemy of the good, but I have no doubt that whatever does pass is something the President will want to succeed and be liked. I completely dismiss the notion that he simply wants to get anything passed, because he has no interest in being blamed for a crappy law—a signature law of his administration—anyone who thinks otherwise simlpy doesn't know this man, and is denying the contrary evidence of their own eyes with respect to what he has done thus far in his brief administration.

President Trump doesn't like unsuccessful projects, and although I'm sure he's had a few, it simply naive to think he will be happy with anything less than a significant improvement over what exists right now.

The President's actions on the Paris Climate Agreement alone are an unmistakable sign that he's taking his campaign pledges seriously, including those relating to health care reform and draining the swamp...

44 posted on 06/22/2017 5:50:20 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: sargon

Please enumerate.


45 posted on 06/22/2017 5:51:27 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Ray76
Please enumerate.

I don't have time to start reviewing your old posts right now. It's possible I could have you confused with someone else, I guess. For now, I'll re-evaluate my humble opinion moving forward...

46 posted on 06/22/2017 5:56:48 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: sargon

In other words you’re talking trash.


47 posted on 06/22/2017 6:00:36 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Ray76
In other words you’re talking trash.

Not at all. I've honestly formed an opinion that you're a Trump-basher, but I'm not interested in sifting through your old posts at this very moment to "prove it" to your satisfaction.

Like I said, I'll start by paying attention to your posts moving forward, and proceed from there...

48 posted on 06/22/2017 6:20:27 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: sargon

You’re being foolish. You can’t even state what forms your “honestly formed opinion”. You wouldn’t need to go through my posts, you’d know.


49 posted on 06/22/2017 6:26:44 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: sargon

By the way, criticizing does not equal “bashing”. I don’t wear 500x goggles, unlike some others. When he does something boneheaded I criticize it. For example arming wahhabis is idiotic.


50 posted on 06/22/2017 6:37:27 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Ray76
All I can say is that to assert that President Trump wants to pass some piece of garbage health care reform just "to be done with it", requires a willful disregard of his historical character and actions.

It's the height of cynicism, and not supported by well-established knowledge regarding the tendencies, grandiose vision, and legendary tenacity of Donald J. Trump. Indeed, quite the opposite should be expected given virtually everything we know about the man.

Of course, it's Congress that must create the legislation, but I don't believe the President will sign a piece of garbage that will hang around his neck, just "to be done with it". If he does, it will be a yuge mistake, and he'll pay dearly for it.

In any event, the fact that you'd flippantly ascribe such motives to President Trump—given what we've seen from him the last 2 years—certainly makes me wonder about your opinion of him, because I don't see where he's ever had such mediocre motives with respect to anything he's ever undertaken. It clearly not something that commonly shows in either his character or actions...

51 posted on 06/22/2017 6:40:25 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: sargon

Maybe you missed it. Yesterday Trump said he wants the Senate to “add some money” to their health care plan because he wants a plan with “heart.”

In May when the House produced a bill he said “Big win in the House very exciting! But when everything comes together with the inclusion of Phase 2, we will have truly great healthcare!”

Neither the House nor Senate bill repeal ACA. But he’ll gladly talk it up even though he promised repeal and replace. Both these bills amend ACA. The Republicans have thwarted him. Ryan’s three phase strategery extends into the next Congress. That’s a recipe for failure. There’s no guarantee the Republicans will hold power. The Senate plan phases ACA out over 7 years. Congress has produced garbage. Trump shouldn’t go along with it.


52 posted on 06/22/2017 7:10:56 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: HarleyLady27

You are right on all counts.

My point is that to truly erase the obammanation legacy will require a lot of work as he left office with this country in BAD shape


53 posted on 06/22/2017 7:16:43 PM PDT by thinden
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